Does anyone know about rape statistics? Do they count prison rape?
Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.
Angel ,'Not Fade Away'
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Allyson - Dec 03, 2004 9:20:17 am PST #3357 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Betsy HP - Dec 03, 2004 9:25:14 am PST #3358 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I think they only just started collecting prison rape statistics with the Stop Prison Rape act. Off to google.
Betsy HP - Dec 03, 2004 9:27:32 am PST #3359 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Bingo. Went to Stop Prisoner Rape's website (excellent people; I need to send them money this year.)
SPR is pressuring the FBI to reform its practice of including only female rape victims in its annual report on violent crime statistics. The FBI’s reporting procedures ignore the thousands of men who are victims of rape behind bars every year and promote outdated assumptions about rape and gender.
The answer to your question is "no".
amych - Dec 03, 2004 9:30:49 am PST #3360 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Excellent peeps indeed, even if every mention of the Prison Rape Elimination Act makes me wonder why we can't just get a Rape Elimination Act.
Betsy HP - Dec 03, 2004 9:33:18 am PST #3361 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Because prison rape is generally regarded as tolerable -- people joke about people going to prison being raped as if it were a legal part of the punishment.
§ ita § - Dec 03, 2004 9:36:00 am PST #3362 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
When you say tolerable, you mean tolerable by people not in prison, right? I mean, I'd say it's expected.
Consuela - Dec 03, 2004 9:40:15 am PST #3363 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Maybe I was confused, then, and it was that men are the most often the perpetrators of violent crime.
It's possible that the relative proportion of aggressors to victims is higher among men than it is among women. By which I mean, out of a hundred men, 10 might be aggressors and 20 might be victims, whereas out of a hundred women 3 might be aggressors and 15 might be victims. (And the victims and aggressors sets may overlap, as well.)
Does that make sense? And I pulled those numbers out of my ass, just for hypothetical purposes.
Betsy HP - Dec 03, 2004 9:43:29 am PST #3364 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I mean, I'd say it's expected.
That's the point. The common wisdom thinks it's not only tolerable but good for criminals to rape one another in prison. You hear jokes made about convicted criminals getting raped. Prison rape shocks the conscience less than civilian rape.
I think it shouldn't. I think we shouldn't turn a blind eye to prisoners raping each other (and guards raping prisoners) any more than to their murdering each other.
§ ita § - Dec 03, 2004 9:45:52 am PST #3365 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The common wisdom thinks it's not only tolerable but good for criminals to rape one another in prison.
Hmm. Your common wisdom is harsher than mine. I do see it as "a bonus reason to not go to jail," but it's not the only one -- shanking and other illegal things that happen there are int he same box in my head.
Betsy HP - Dec 03, 2004 9:46:52 am PST #3366 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Your common wisdom is harsher than mine.
Look at all the jokes that were made about Martha Stewart's cellmate.