It's because you didn't have a strong father figure isn't it?

Joyce ,'Chosen'


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[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Consuela - Sep 29, 2004 3:34:35 pm PDT #2405 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I can't speak for the second prequel, but I saw the first one, and was horribly disappointed. Star Wars the original captured me with its vision and creativity and the archetypal nature of the characters. There were lots of little moments of connection, bits of insight into this universe, some witty dialog, and a classic (if not original) story driving the plot.

Whereas The Phantom Menace struck me as a bunch of set pieces, with too many characters and no time to make me care about them. I felt overwhelmed by the CGI and underwhelmed by the dialog. It felt like 30% of a movie, and I never had any desire to see it again.


Consuela - Sep 29, 2004 3:36:30 pm PDT #2406 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Or, What Robin Said.


Barry Woodward - Sep 29, 2004 3:43:00 pm PDT #2407 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!

"But it's interesting, Barry - I've rarely seen the prequels strongly defended so it is kind of intriguing to read."

Thanks. I never intended to be the lone defender but I did want to chime in with a different take to counter the outpouring of hatred for them. I mean, I understand folks being disappointed or thinking they suck but the prequels and by extention George Lucas get way too much hate then they deserve. The hyperbole is perfectly demonstrated by internet geeks declaring, "George Lucas raped my childhood!"


thegrommit - Sep 29, 2004 3:45:01 pm PDT #2408 of 10001
Um.

edit - nm, the snark was uncalled for.


JohnSweden - Sep 29, 2004 3:49:23 pm PDT #2409 of 10001
I can't even.

Does this mean I'm going to have to go and watch the damn thing?

No.

Thanks. I never intended to be the lone defender but I did want to chime in with a different take to counter the outpouring of hatred for them.

As long as the good monkey crack doesn't wear off, go you with being the last defender of George. Here's another opinion stated as opinion: make the bad man stop making movies. No, not after this one. Right now.


Betsy HP - Sep 29, 2004 3:54:17 pm PDT #2410 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Look, I saw the first Star Wars movie when I was twenty-two. My childhood? Not so much.

I disliked the prequels because I thought they were badly written. Most people agreed, before the prequels, that the best-written of the three movies was *The Empire Strikes Back*, which wasn't written by Lucas at all. I wasn't complaining that Lucas had raped my young-adulthood back when Empire came out, because Empire was in many ways better than Star Wars.

If I'm complaining about the prequels (and I am), it's because I felt no emotional connection to the events. I admired Han, Luke, and Leia in their separate ways. I feel contempt for Anakin and Amidala.


Barry Woodward - Sep 29, 2004 3:56:14 pm PDT #2411 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!

"As long as the good monkey crack doesn't wear off, go you with being the last defender of George."

I may be a lone defender at this board but there are plenty of folks that dig the movies elsewhere. Not that critical opinion is in any way needed to justify my opinion but both prequels have a fresh rating at Rotten Tomatoes. Roger Ebert even gave The Phantom Menace three and a half stars out of four. Just saying.

"Here's another opinion stated as opinion: make the bad man stop making movies. No, not after this one. Right now."

Too late. It's already been shot. :p


Consuela - Sep 29, 2004 4:02:24 pm PDT #2412 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I feel contempt for Anakin and Amidala.

What Betsy said. Did they ever go back and rescue that poor woman out of slavery?


Allyson - Sep 29, 2004 4:04:55 pm PDT #2413 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Oh dear. I have just realized that given the choice between watching the prequels and and having to write a 5000 word essay on how excellent the girly stinky elf movie is, I'd choose Mary the stinky elf, every. time.


Barry Woodward - Sep 29, 2004 4:07:59 pm PDT #2414 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!