No emotional pull? In my opinion there was a lot of emotional pull.
I cried for Jar Jar.
Or because of him.
You have to give a crap about the characters to be pulled about by their emotions.
You know what they say about payback? Well I'm the bitch.
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Allyson - Sep 29, 2004 2:36:36 pm PDT #2394 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
tommyrot - Sep 29, 2004 2:43:18 pm PDT #2395 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Obi Wan was the only character I cared about in Menace and Clones. And even then it wasn't a whole lot.
I did like the movies, as there were lots of pretty stuff and effects to look at. But the amount of magic in them is pretty tiny when compared to the original trilogy.
eta:
I cried for Jar Jar.
Or because of him.
Because of Jar Jar I tried to buy the domain jarjarsucks.com. But someone else had already gotten it. (It's gone now.)
thegrommit - Sep 29, 2004 2:55:55 pm PDT #2396 of 10001
Um.
You have to give a crap about the characters to be pulled about by their emotions.
Yes. None of the emotions felt earned. I know we're talking about a popcorn movie, but there was no character development - just a string of "important" moments strung together with some annoying comic "relief" and a bombastic sound track.
Barry Woodward - Sep 29, 2004 3:05:28 pm PDT #2397 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!
"Yes. None of the emotions felt earned. I know we're talking about a popcorn movie, but there was no character development - just a string of "important" moments strung together with some annoying comic "relief" and a bombastic sound track."
The original trilogy's emotions were also predicated on "a string of important moments strung together with comic relief and a bombastic soundtrack". Really. Luke's character development happened through his actions and reactions to the events he was thrust into and the same goes for Anakin. Now your beef may be with the performances, direction or whatever but in that regard the two trilogies are very similar. This isn't a television series or a character drama and thus the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy both operate in broad strokes.
Allyson - Sep 29, 2004 3:11:25 pm PDT #2398 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Barry, the Prequels are bad. They're indefensibly bad.
Barry Woodward - Sep 29, 2004 3:13:36 pm PDT #2399 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!
"Barry, the Prequels are bad. They're indefensibly bad."
Opinion stated as fact. Come on, you're much too smart to resort to that. Really, I see where you're coming from but I won't roll over and go with the flow.
thegrommit - Sep 29, 2004 3:15:56 pm PDT #2400 of 10001
Um.
Next up - Star Wars vs Star Trek.
Allyson - Sep 29, 2004 3:25:45 pm PDT #2401 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Opinion stated as fact.
Whoa. You totally got me there. You win, here's your cookie. I'll just go over here and sulk.
Barry Woodward - Sep 29, 2004 3:28:38 pm PDT #2402 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!
"Whoa. You totally got me there. You win, here's your cookie. I'll just go over here and sulk."
I don't want to win, I'm just trying to tell folks where I'm coming from.
Scrappy - Sep 29, 2004 3:31:00 pm PDT #2403 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
The prequels really do lack the depth and characterization, and IMO, most importantly, the sense of fun of the first three. Lucas didn't have actors like Ford and Fisher, who both have really good script instincts (Fisher is one of Hollywood's highest paid script doctors now) who felt free to challenge him on lines and on character to add layers and believability around on the prequels and it shows.