Heee! StormTroopers melt in your mouth, not in your hand!

I think the whole backlash about how the midchlorians betrayed the original trilogy's mystical view of the Force is hogwash. Obi-Wan on the Force: "It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together." and Yoda on the Force: "Life creates it, make it grow. It's energy surrounds us and binds us." It's not an entirely new concept for the saga, it was just given a name in The Phantom Menace. I think the word midichlorian was meant to invoke the real world counterpart mitochondria.

My problem with midiclorians is just that - giving this stuff a psudeo scientific name just exposes it as silly. Before I could ignore the useless armor, the noisy space, etc. Now my suspension of disbelief is shot. As a direct result, my carburator of rage is overflowing.

Lucas has allowed the showrunner of Samurai Jack to have complete creative control over the Cartoon Network's Clone Wars series so there is hope. What do you think? (and if you're lurking Tim, feel free to chime in as well)

And they actually turned out a lot more entertaining than the most recent movies.

I don't hate Ep I and II (though I do hate Jar Jar) but they're definitely flawed and don't have the charm of the original trilogy where it's easier to overlook the flaws.

I love Magic Shell. (Sorry. But I really do.)

I don't even remember what midichlorians are or mean. That's how much I retained. I was not a fan of the first prequel, and I didn't see the second one ... except in part, on TV. So then, I'm just posting to hear myself post (and declare a liking for chocolate topping that hardens)? I'll stop.

Huh. Who would've thought a Star Wars discussion was the reason this thread jumped into life.

My beef with the "new" films is that they aren't very good. There was no emotional pull, just annoyance with Jar Jar and mini-Vader. The lack of convincing chemistry in what is supposed to be a romance didn't help the second film either.

Of course, the third film is where everything is supposed to go horribly wrong, so I'm sure it'll be fine.

i'm in the camp that hates the prequels. also the one that thinks Lucas needs to have his rights revoked when messing with the original trilogy.

however, i'm also not what i would call a fandom geek about any of the movies. i enjoy them, but not in the way i enjoyed shoes like Buffy, Angel, Wonderfalls and many many others.

"My beef with the "new" films is that they aren't very good. There was no emotional pull, just annoyance with Jar Jar and mini-Vader."

I don't agree with that. The Queen distaught over her people dying, Jar Jar Binks being expelled from his people for being different yet still proving his worth by helping the Jedi and bringing his people and the people of Naboo together, the political machinations of Palatine, Anakin having to leave his mother behind, the father/son relationship between Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon's dying wish to Obi-Wan were all very compelling to me in The Phantom Menace. Anakin wanting to move forward as a Jedi and Obi-Wan holding him back, the father/son relationship between the two, the attempted assasinations on Padme that force her into hiding and thus keeping her from opposing Palpatine's war machine, Anakin and Padme's forbidden and starcrossed romance, Jar Jar getting manipulated into proposing the army that eventually brings about the Empire, Anakin's nightmare's of his mother suffering and then seeing his mother beaten and dying in his arms, his slaughter of the Tusken Raiders and his confession all were very powerful to me in Attack Of The Clones. No emotional pull? In my opinion there was a lot of emotional pull.

"The lack of convincing chemistry in what is supposed to be a romance didn't help the second film either."

Now with that I can kinda see where you're coming from however I thought they did indeed have chemistry just that at least for the Queen it was restained on purpose and not a lack of talent from Natalie Portman. Why do I see it that way? Well, to me it makes sense, she's been in a position of great power and responsiblility for years and she's emotionally closed off. In the society they live in (very different from the original trilogy) there are rules and expectations and a Jedi and a Senator are not allowed to date. Just before Anakin and Padme are to be executed she breaks through her barriers and professes her love for him. Also, it's important to keep in mind that Anakin and Padme's relationship is supposed to be unhealthy.

"Of course, the third film is where everything is supposed to go horribly wrong, so I'm sure it'll be fine.

Yeah, there's a considerable buzz among insiders even ones that hated both prequels. Tom Stoppard co-wrote the script and of course everyone's favorite villain Darth Vader is returning.

Barry, there's an easy way to quote text here. Just preface it with a right-pointing carat ">" at the beginning of a line, and the text will be automatically indented,

like so.

Barry, your quotes will be more distinct from the text if you offset them with a quickedit (plus it will save you some typing).

If you replace:
[quote]My beef with the "new" films is that they aren't very good. There was no emotional pull, just annoyance with Jar Jar and mini-Vader.[/quote]I don't agree with that.

With:
>My beef with the "new" films is that they aren't very good. There was no emotional pull, just annoyance with Jar Jar and mini-Vader.

I don't agree with that.

You'll get:

My beef with the "new" films is that they aren't very good. There was no emotional pull, just annoyance with Jar Jar and mini-Vader.

I don't agree with that.