I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?

Zoe ,'War Stories'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kristen - Sep 06, 2004 4:57:08 pm PDT #2127 of 10001

sort of like you guys, please don't hurt me, for although there is fear, I do not despise, nor is this said with any derision

Just for that, I shall smite you with the mighty powers of my BNFosity...except no. I wasn't really ever a BNF. I think that I achieved a certain amount of notoriety within the Bronze community but that was a fairly small pond and not representative of the BtVS fandom. And also, I could point to a dozen Brozers off the top of my head that had a higher profile. It wasn't ever as if anyone outside of the small pond knew who I was.

So, while I do sometimes get a few twinges of jealousy when a BNF drops a funny story about their evening with someone, like, say, Tim Minear

I find this statement really odd. I guess because I don't consider Buffistas a "fandom" nor do I think Tim's generosity towards Nilly had anything to do with fandom. Nilly is a cool, interesting and very sweet person. Every member of this community wanted to hang out with her.


Allyson - Sep 06, 2004 5:11:50 pm PDT #2128 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I wasn't really ever a BNF.

Have you done a Vanity Google lately?

Also, Kristen Minear is a fabulous google, and google asks me, "Do you mean, Kristen Miller?


Kristen - Sep 06, 2004 5:15:08 pm PDT #2129 of 10001

Oh shut up, Queen BNF.


libkitty - Sep 06, 2004 5:16:08 pm PDT #2130 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Perhaps I was not using the correct definition of "fan" and "fandom," Kristen. I didn't mean it at all negatively. I agree that everyone wanted to hang out with Nilly for all sorts of wonderful reasons. I'm a fan of hers because of her writing and the wonderful, friendly, open way she seems to have with everyone. I do think she's become famous within this community, and that her fame has spread beyond it onto other boards. I don't think this is a bad thing. It's because she's so intelligent and nice, and puts a lot of energy and talent into the community and into expressing her take on things we love.

I don't know Tim or Nilly, and hope that I'm not being too presumptuous, but it seems to me that Tim's generosity to Nilly was because of the wonderful qualities of hers that I mentioned above and in my previous post. I think that he saw something wonderful in Nilly's posts, and wanted to share that in person and with the community. I think this represents the very best qualities of a community, and I certainly never intended to imply any of the sordid or negative implications that sometimes come with "fan" or "fandom."

I'm sorry if there was any misunderstanding, and hope that this clarifies matters rather than mucking them up worse.


Allyson - Sep 06, 2004 5:16:53 pm PDT #2131 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

My Vanity Google mostly comes up with Alyson Hannigan's name misspelled. And "Allyson A Popgurl."


Polter-Cow - Sep 06, 2004 5:20:24 pm PDT #2132 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My name is too common to get anything useful out of a vanity Google. "Polter-Cow," however, brings up me and only me, which I enjoy.


§ ita § - Sep 06, 2004 5:21:41 pm PDT #2133 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Buffistas aren't a fandom, but they are of fandom. We may be no more representative than, say, the Kittens, but we're both 'net fandom, no?


libkitty - Sep 06, 2004 5:23:13 pm PDT #2134 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I come up first on a vanity google of my name. Then a lady who was apparently the first African American professor at some university in the South. Most of the libkitty stuff seems to be me as well, although there is some stuff in French that seems to relate to a .dll.


Allyson - Sep 06, 2004 5:23:28 pm PDT #2135 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Aren't we Joss Whedon's Official Site, according to the TV Guide Channel?


Kristen - Sep 06, 2004 5:23:50 pm PDT #2136 of 10001

The Buffistas aren't a fandom, but they are of fandom.

I think that's how it started but is it really still the case? I mean, even before every show we followed got knocked off the air, how many Buffistas would have cited fandom-related discussion as their primary reason for posting here?

ita, however, is a BNF. She gots the SOs.