And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

Mal ,'The Train Job'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Tomanta - Jun 02, 2004 6:45:00 am PDT #126 of 10001
"It's clever and unexpected!" "But that's not why people watch TV. Clever makes them feel stupid, and unexpected makes them feel scared!"

Re: Product Placement.

The worst I ever saw was in a mid-season 3 episode of Alias. They are chasing someone, enter a parking lot and the person they are chasing drives off. Sidney yells "Get the Ford F150!". [never mind that the position of the truck made it a poor choice for a chase vehicle... too much time taken to get it and get it out].

But wait, that's not all. There's a good 5-10 second static shot of the "Ford F150" label on the truck before it drives off. That's where I got annoyed.

And I'm reminded of an episode of Futurama... "And Oscar nominees for best product placement are... Star Trek: The Pepsi Generation, They Call Me Mr. Pibb!, and Snow White and the 7-Up!"


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2004 6:46:35 am PDT #127 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

See, if a) the car had been in a sensible place, and b) they'd called it either "the Ford" or "the F150," it might have sounded like real life. But real life isn't good enough for ads, is it?


bon bon - Jun 02, 2004 6:49:24 am PDT #128 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The worst I ever saw was in a mid-season 3 episode of Alias. They are chasing someone, enter a parking lot and the person they are chasing drives off. Sidney yells "Get the Ford F150!".

God, yes, I remember that. Because it's so common for people to say "Ford F150" rather than, I dunno, "the truck." And you're gonna want one of those in a parking garage, with its tight turning radius and easy maneuverability.


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2004 6:53:23 am PDT #129 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I was in Detroit, they'd certainly say "the F150" or less likely "the Ford," or perhaps "the Ford truck."

Brand names were all up in the conversation. However, "the Ford F150" implies that Chevy has an F150, and you don't want to get that one instead. It's like calling a close friend by first and last name the whole time.


bon bon - Jun 02, 2004 6:55:23 am PDT #130 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

If you're talking about a specific truck distinguished from other trucks, yeah. But if you're talking about a truck distinguished from all the other cars, then go truck. Vote truck.

The word has no meaning anymore.


tommyrot - Jun 02, 2004 6:56:46 am PDT #131 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Brand names were all up in the conversation. However, "the Ford F150" implies that Chevy has an F150, and you don't want to get that one instead.

Toyota wanted to call their big pickup truck the T150, but Ford asked them not to. I guess they're sensitive about the 150 thing.


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2004 6:59:01 am PDT #132 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you're talking about a specific truck distinguished from other trucks, yeah.

NSM with the groups I hung out with. The cars were pretty much always named like that. It could be the only gas-powered vehicle in ten miles, and we'd be getting into the 325. Just never the BMW 325i.


bon bon - Jun 02, 2004 7:09:21 am PDT #133 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

ita, do you wear a sign that says "looking for people to contradict bon bon"?

I am suspicious of your so-called "friends."


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2004 7:11:04 am PDT #134 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am suspicious of your so-called "friends."

Of course you are.

But if you check the timeline, you'll see you contradicted me.


Allyson - Jun 02, 2004 7:11:25 am PDT #135 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

ita's mom pays us two chickens a week to be "friends" with her daughter, and yes, contradicting bon bon is in the contract.