Keeping up with the Minearverse chatter- I sat friends down to watch the Dead Like Me pilot, and when they agreed it was really good, hit 'em with the old "Good. Wonderfalls is a zillion times better." line. They have agreed to sit and watch it with me (after I lock myself in a room to watch the whole set so's I'm not disturbed by all the talking and breathing and such.). I feel I've gained tv show cred in their Friends worshipping eyes.
I am a large, semi-muscular man. I can take it. Don't hide behind Mal 'cause you know he'll shoot it down for you. Tell me.
Wash ,'War Stories'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Lilty Cash - Jul 22, 2004 9:03:01 pm PDT #1259 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."
Lilty Cash - Jul 22, 2004 9:03:04 pm PDT #1260 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."
Liese S. - Jul 23, 2004 8:28:02 am PDT #1261 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
It's prolly good. Usually when we don't hear from Tim it's when he's, you know, working.
libkitty - Jul 23, 2004 9:37:40 am PDT #1262 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
It's prolly good. Usually when we don't hear from Tim it's when he's, you know, working.
Indeed. It's what I meant in the less pathetic part of my post. How sad is it that I'm anxiously awaiting Moon, which is based on a book I didn't even like.
DavidS - Jul 23, 2004 9:53:22 am PDT #1263 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Maybe I missed the conversation whilst skipping about, but Dead Like Me has effectively sated at least part of my craving for more Wonderfalls.
There are many points of comparison, and looking at them both you get a great view of Brian Fuller's interests. Notably both are strongest in their family dynamics. The lead in DLM, George, is less likeable than Jaye (at least in the beginning) - and I do think that Caroline has a bit more to bring to her character. But I liked George more and more as the series progressed.
Anyway, if you're jonesing for more, you might consider it. It's like methadone.
Zenkitty - Jul 23, 2004 10:24:46 am PDT #1264 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Huh. I watched and enjoyed both DLM and Wonderfalls, and never thought they were anything alike. Except for me wanting to smack both lead characters several times.
DavidS - Jul 23, 2004 10:50:41 am PDT #1265 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Huh. I watched and enjoyed both DLM and Wonderfalls, and never thought they were anything alike. Except for me wanting to smack both lead characters several times.
Really? Both center around a very cynical, intelligent young woman who is disengaged with life, and is forced through supernatural agency to become involved with messy humans. Also both have weirdly dysfunctional but loving families and depressing going nowhere dayjobs. Also the tone is very similar (though Wonderfalls is a bit more comic) and the visuals.
JohnSweden - Jul 23, 2004 11:38:45 am PDT #1266 of 10001
I can't even.
The All the central characters are Dead part made DLM different enough for me. I tried to like it. It needed another tone or two, I think. And more of Mandy Patinkin being other than just really really weary. So, yeah, worth watching, but it lost me about halfway through the season. It just eroded out of must see tv, whereas Wonderfalls was funky enough that I wanted to see what was going to happen next.
DavidS - Jul 23, 2004 12:49:43 pm PDT #1267 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
So, yeah, worth watching, but it lost me about halfway through the season. It just eroded out of must see tv, whereas Wonderfalls was funky enough that I wanted to see what was going to happen next.
Probably the advantage of getting it on DVD, since some of the better episodes are from the halfway to three quarter mark of the season.
Zenkitty - Jul 23, 2004 3:40:20 pm PDT #1268 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Really? Both center around a very cynical, intelligent young woman who is disengaged with life, and is forced through supernatural agency to become involved with messy humans. Also both have weirdly dysfunctional but loving families and depressing going nowhere dayjobs. Also the tone is very similar (though Wonderfalls is a bit more comic) and the visuals.
DavidS: Uh. Yeah. Those parts are alike, aren't they... Maybe I'm so used to being "cynical intelligent disaffected woman with dysfuntional family and depressing job" that that seemed like the RL part, and the shows seemed about the ways (supernatural and otherwise) they were dealing with it. I'm not saying this well. So much for the "intelligent" part...
In DLM they're all dead, so, it's essentially about how to move on from your place of hopelessness and despair to whatever's next, and get past the knowledge that you've screwed up your previous life for good. George doesn't get a second chance, no matter what she does or learns. Jaye still has a chance to not screw up her life for good. For her, it's about avoiding coming to that place of hopelessness, about realizing the worth of her life before she does something that she can't fix or undo.
To me, the place where the lead characters are in their (un)lives is so different that the shows don't look alike, even if the two have similar backgrounds and ways of expressing themselves.