Maybe I missed the conversation whilst skipping about, but Dead Like Me has effectively sated at least part of my craving for more Wonderfalls.

There are many points of comparison, and looking at them both you get a great view of Brian Fuller's interests. Notably both are strongest in their family dynamics. The lead in DLM, George, is less likeable than Jaye (at least in the beginning) - and I do think that Caroline has a bit more to bring to her character. But I liked George more and more as the series progressed.

Anyway, if you're jonesing for more, you might consider it. It's like methadone.

Huh. I watched and enjoyed both DLM and Wonderfalls, and never thought they were anything alike. Except for me wanting to smack both lead characters several times.

Huh. I watched and enjoyed both DLM and Wonderfalls, and never thought they were anything alike. Except for me wanting to smack both lead characters several times.

Really? Both center around a very cynical, intelligent young woman who is disengaged with life, and is forced through supernatural agency to become involved with messy humans. Also both have weirdly dysfunctional but loving families and depressing going nowhere dayjobs. Also the tone is very similar (though Wonderfalls is a bit more comic) and the visuals.

The All the central characters are Dead part made DLM different enough for me. I tried to like it. It needed another tone or two, I think. And more of Mandy Patinkin being other than just really really weary. So, yeah, worth watching, but it lost me about halfway through the season. It just eroded out of must see tv, whereas Wonderfalls was funky enough that I wanted to see what was going to happen next.

So, yeah, worth watching, but it lost me about halfway through the season. It just eroded out of must see tv, whereas Wonderfalls was funky enough that I wanted to see what was going to happen next.

Probably the advantage of getting it on DVD, since some of the better episodes are from the halfway to three quarter mark of the season.

Really? Both center around a very cynical, intelligent young woman who is disengaged with life, and is forced through supernatural agency to become involved with messy humans. Also both have weirdly dysfunctional but loving families and depressing going nowhere dayjobs. Also the tone is very similar (though Wonderfalls is a bit more comic) and the visuals.

DavidS: Uh. Yeah. Those parts are alike, aren't they... Maybe I'm so used to being "cynical intelligent disaffected woman with dysfuntional family and depressing job" that that seemed like the RL part, and the shows seemed about the ways (supernatural and otherwise) they were dealing with it. I'm not saying this well. So much for the "intelligent" part...

In DLM they're all dead, so, it's essentially about how to move on from your place of hopelessness and despair to whatever's next, and get past the knowledge that you've screwed up your previous life for good. George doesn't get a second chance, no matter what she does or learns. Jaye still has a chance to not screw up her life for good. For her, it's about avoiding coming to that place of hopelessness, about realizing the worth of her life before she does something that she can't fix or undo.

To me, the place where the lead characters are in their (un)lives is so different that the shows don't look alike, even if the two have similar backgrounds and ways of expressing themselves.

Probably the advantage of getting it on DVD, since some of the better episodes are from the halfway to three quarter mark of the season.

What Hec said. I originally felt the way JS did; the series lost me and I lost interest. However, getting the DVD's and watching them straight through made me fall for the whole gang.

I do still love Wonderfalls beyond all reason and liked it better in the five episodes I've seen than a whole season of DLM, but George and Co. did help me to appease my WF sadness and give me at least one show to look forward to.

I do still love Wonderfalls beyond all reason and liked it better in the five episodes I've seen than a whole season of DLM, but George and Co. did help me to appease my WF sadness and give me at least one show to look forward to.

Yeah, this is the case for me also.

George doesn't get a second chance, no matter what she does or learns.

Yeah, but UnLife is a long time, and she is changing. And she is making something of her UnLife. Also, I really like Dolores Herbig ("As in her big brown eyes.")

Dead Like Me did hit a flat spot where they kept restating the premise more often than I needed them to in the first season. It broke loose in the latter parts of the series and started giving each of the characters some room to grow.

I can't decide if the Gayheart character was just written flat, or if she was played flat. I will say that I am glad that Gayheart did not play Inara in Firefly.

Either way, Laura Harris whacked "Daisy" right out of the park.

Dead works better for me than the few Wonderfalls I got to see. The rest of the season might have closed that gap. More on this, when the WF DVD hits the shelves. (Avoiding all downloads, behind my personal rule that it is not downloadable until it has been broadcast over the open air, my FEED THE BEAGLES rule.)

A Replay buddy in the States will be getting the new season of DLM to me on a short delay. I am so excited for Monday's season premiere.

I will say that I am glad that Gayheart did not play Inara in Firefly.

Oh yeah.

Either way, Laura Harris whacked "Daisy" right out of the park.

"I blew Errol Flynn once."