Look, Angel, I know you've been out of the loop for a while, but I'm still evil. I don't do errands...unless they're evil errands.

Lilah ,'Just Rewards (2)'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Liese S. - Jun 01, 2004 7:24:46 pm PDT #108 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, I agree with you, Allyson. There's definitely a line to be drawn there, wherein lies annoyance. I used to also be irritated by constantly noticing that you couldn't tell what the product was. All the turned around cans. And in "reality" type shots, blurred shirts.


Allyson - Jun 01, 2004 7:26:05 pm PDT #109 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I had my Firefly jacket on at a family gathering and a cousin (by marraige) said, "oh, wasn't that canceled?" in a very condescending manner.

I must have seethed pure rage, because he quickly added, "Oh, it looked like a good show, though."


Invisible Green - Jun 01, 2004 7:28:12 pm PDT #110 of 10001

Semantically, isn't it after the previous show ends?

Well, the fifth season of Angel technically started at 9:01, for some reason.

I remember reading something at Vidiot.com a while back moaning about how the hourlongs were getting shorter and shorter... whole seconds being lost to commercials!

I definitely remember reading that, however incredulously. I think there were lots of "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!!'s" thrown in, too. Sure, I get that TV show lengths are decreasing, and I would prefer them not to shorten too much, but really, as long as the shows are quality (and not rushed), then I don't really care.

Also, great hair, Liese!


Kristen - Jun 01, 2004 7:29:10 pm PDT #111 of 10001

I always wonder how product placement deals work. Like with The Restaurant. Huge deal with Mitsubishi. The front end of the car, with the Mitsubishi logo, is in the opening credits. So the show's been yanked or possibly moved to one of NBC's other networks to finish its run. Do they have to refund some money to Mitsubishi?

Also, I can't believe how hard it was to spell Mitsubishi four times. I need sleep.


Scrappy - Jun 01, 2004 7:29:13 pm PDT #112 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

A good friend of our does props, and meeting with product placement people is part of the preproduction process. A GOOD prop person, designer, and director will not agree to product placement which is out of place.

ETA-- He works on fiction films, where the products need to be part of the landscape and not call attention to themsleves. In reality shows, you can be much more blatant about it.


Scrappy - Jun 01, 2004 7:33:55 pm PDT #113 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Forgot to mention--Liese. Gorgeous haircut. Gorgeous you!


The Partyman - Jun 01, 2004 7:37:23 pm PDT #114 of 10001
[insert something funny here]

Throwing in my two thumbs up for Liese's fab new hairstyle - looks great!

I agree with Allyson that 'natural' use of product placement makes total sense in shows and films... and I admit I love it when a certain product adds something to the reception (Sorry - watched "Hellboy" earlier and still grinning from seeing him drinking a can of a certain caffeinated engery drink!)

Major Placements bug me though - and I can't belive that the advertisers are so often blatant about it. I remember with pain when I watched the (US Version) of the Season Three Premiere of 24...

"Brought to you without commercial interruption by the [whatever car it was - probably a Ford Focus!]"

It's an evil double-edged sword - they're acknowledging the fact that commercials are an interruption to the viewers pleasure, and attracting the viewer to the show sans interuption, yet at the same time leaving the viewer in no doubt whatsoever as to the great product responsible. Like cheating or something. Bah.

Edited to add: Look at the time! Must sleep.x


Astarte - Jun 01, 2004 8:12:42 pm PDT #115 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Liese, you look fabulous.

Reminds me I need to get my wild mane trimmed again.


Kat - Jun 01, 2004 8:26:35 pm PDT #116 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Robin, I left a bag at your place this morning. Did you get it?


amych - Jun 01, 2004 8:35:28 pm PDT #117 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Liese! You're glorious. And the haircut's good too.