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Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?

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Kalshane - May 19, 2004 5:28:11 pm PDT #782 of 3531

GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I can't really form words at the moment. I so knew it was going to be Wes, and I so didn't want it to be. While the ending wasn't closure, I'm happy with it. Not really happy about the death of Lindsey (not just on a liking the character level, but on a "I don't get the reasoning behind it" level.) I mean I guess Angel was expecting to die and didn't trust Lindsey to not help undo what the MoG had done afterwards, but it still seemed excessively harsh.

(Latter part x-posty with quester and others)

joe boucher - May 19, 2004 5:28:15 pm PDT #783 of 3531

I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

I flashed back to the Buffy episode and Giles telling Buffy that you can always tell the good guys by the white hats, the bad guys wear black and nobody ever dies.

That's "Lie to Me". How apropos. Off to watch the end of the basketball game. Thanks everyone. Show's been great, you've been great. Au revoir.

Maria - May 19, 2004 5:28:20 pm PDT #784 of 3531

Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

So....is that it? Are we done?

I was just going to say that. All I know is that the fight goes on...

Madrigal Costello - May 19, 2004 5:28:38 pm PDT #785 of 3531

It's a remora, dimwit.

I think Angel specifically told Lorne to kill Lindsey. I think Lorne would have killed Lindsey if he could have directly blamed him for Fred's death, or he attacked, but just knowing that he had an evil future would be something he'd report to Angel and then let him make the decision. I do think that's a sharp bit of irony - that Lorne's now all morally gray and doing stuff he considers wrong because he joined with the good guys.

Sydney Carton - May 19, 2004 5:28:48 pm PDT #786 of 3531

Actually, I've feeling a wee bit peckish...

Wow. I think that worked on all levels.

It hasn't hit me that its all over now. The creation is done, but I don't think it's day seven yet.

No cliffhanger Joss? Yeah. right.

askye - May 19, 2004 5:29:16 pm PDT #787 of 3531

Thrive to spite them

Joe--I'm pretty sure that killing Lindsey was the "one last job" that Angel gave to Lorne.

SailAweigh - May 19, 2004 5:30:04 pm PDT #788 of 3531

Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I kinda think that if the series weren't ending, this season would've ended differently.

Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know. Unless there are script sides out there that have Joss' original intentions in them. Anyone know?

Jon B. - May 19, 2004 5:31:00 pm PDT #789 of 3531

A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Not really happy about the death of Lindsey (not just on a liking the character level, but on a "I don't get the reasoning behind it" level.)

I'm liking Joe's theory. Killing Lindsey was Lorne acting solo. He'd read Lindsey, had seen him returning to evil, and couldn't let him live.

t on edit but Madrigal's theory is good too. Hmmm....

Madrigal Costello - May 19, 2004 5:31:03 pm PDT #790 of 3531

It's a remora, dimwit.

Really, it does sort of fit for Angel to end this way because the emphasis with him wasn't the reward, or actually being able to atone. It's like what Buffy said in "Amends" - strong is fighting, and it's what the good guys do everyday. For Angel inactivity would be the bad ending.

Micole - May 19, 2004 5:34:29 pm PDT #791 of 3531

I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Um. They're all dead. Or I read them as all dead, but going down fighting.

Unless there are TV movies.

Or Illyria might survive, because she's the one left who'd want it least.

I'm just so relieved Connor got out. For now.

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