What if they gave an apocalypse and nobody came?
I think I love this line. I might want to tag it.
My food is problematic.
River ,'The Message'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Kristen - May 18, 2004 12:10:12 pm PDT #392 of 3531
Wolfram - May 18, 2004 12:19:28 pm PDT #393 of 3531
Visilurking
What if they gave an apocalypse and nobody came?
No Jasmine.
MechaKrelboyne - May 18, 2004 12:20:34 pm PDT #394 of 3531
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious
But those get thrown in real life too. Which is good, because they're much easier to see.
Of course. But if you're going to do it on TV, wear a trenchcoat so it swirls around in a cool way when you do it.
Knee kicks are illegal, right? Because Muay Thai would definitely benefit if you left that in.
What is legal, and very useful too, is kicking the thigh right above the knee. Muay Thai guys are very good at that, and can win a fight by bruising someone's leg so badly it won't hold their weight anymore. Ernesto Hoost is really good at this, he does K-1. Leg kicks are also quick enough and low enough that they aren't as risky as high kicks.
But still, back then, the big problem was that nobody really knew how to defend against the takedown. In large part, this is because the early UFC shows were partially financed by the Gracie family, so they went for fighters who didn't really know how to deal with their type of fight.
§ ita § - May 18, 2004 12:24:26 pm PDT #395 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
they went for fighters who didn't really know how to deal with their type of fight.
I did not know this. Cheaters!
Yeah, those thigh kicks are killer. I pity your sparring partner while you're perfecting them. I just had an injection in my left thigh for a 18 month-old deep muscle bruise exacerbated by just that.
Polter-Cow - May 18, 2004 12:29:13 pm PDT #396 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I think I love this line. I might want to tag it.
Go ahead. My previous tag was a Strega line.
MechaKrelboyne - May 18, 2004 12:45:49 pm PDT #397 of 3531
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious
It gets better. They also offered these guys the same money, win or lose. Therefore, they have less incentive to win, and are more likely to give up when they get into an unfamiliar situation.
§ ita § - May 18, 2004 12:47:24 pm PDT #398 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
They also offered these guys the same money, win or lose.
Dude. I like Gracie BJJ, but damn.
I'd like to see krav in the UFC, but the only instructor we had crazy enough to try turned out to not be quite crazy enough. Anyone out there who's trained heavily both up and down?
MechaKrelboyne - May 18, 2004 1:16:37 pm PDT #399 of 3531
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious
Dude. I like Gracie BJJ, but damn.
I know. The form's lived a lot of that crap down by now, and even when decent competition came along, Royce Gracie did alright. He's a pretty good fighter. Boring as hell, but skilled.
I'd like to see krav in the UFC, but the only instructor we had crazy enough to try turned out to not be quite crazy enough.
I can see that, actually. A lot of the most pragmatic fighting styles use techniques that are illegal in competition. I don't know much about krav, but I wouldn't be surprised...
Anyone out there who's trained heavily both up and down?
Nowadays, pretty much everyone. It's necessary. The first wave, as stated was BJJ. The second wave was wrestlers, who pretty much invented the 'Ground and Pound' style of fighting. Take the guy down and get on top, then punch instead of going for a choke or armbar or whatever.
The third wave was the return of the strikers. kickboxers and other stand up fighters cross trained in ground techniques and takedown defense. Once they knew they had the tools to keep a fight standing, or avoid submission attempts if it did go to the ground, the strikers gained some confidence, and you began to see some high kicks once in a while. Occasionally, someone would bust out a spinning backfist or a flying double knee strike or something crazy like that.
Nowadays, things have pretty much equalized, and things depend more on the actual fighters than the styles they prefer.
§ ita § - May 18, 2004 1:26:15 pm PDT #400 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
A lot of the most pragmatic fighting styles use techniques that are illegal in competition. I don't know much about krav, but I wouldn't be surprised...
One instructor complains about having to lose his groin kick while training for a kickboxing competition. I feel his pain.
The instructor that was training for UFC for a hot second supplemented his normal krav traning with boxing and Greco-Roman wrestling. We do quite a bit of ground sparring, but not so much to submission. More to the break or dislocation.
MechaKrelboyne - May 18, 2004 2:06:59 pm PDT #401 of 3531
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious
The instructor that was training for UFC for a hot second supplemented his normal krav traning with boxing and Greco-Roman wrestling. We do quite a bit of ground sparring, but not so much to submission. More to the break or dislocation.
I can see that too. Most of the armbars and locks can cause serious damage if you yank hard enough. bone breaks in MMA fights aren't exactly common, but not unheard of either.