Continued from the Buffy 4 Thread, as I don't have time to linger:
Then (on an opposite note) was it you who suggested that AMENDS was essentially the first episode of ANGEL the series?
Actually, I think that was me, and I stand by it.
Willow: You know what they say. The bigger they are... Anya: The faster they stomp you into nothin'.
'The Killer In Me'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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victor infante - Mar 04, 2005 9:42:10 am PST #3450 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
P.M. Marc - Mar 04, 2005 9:45:02 am PST #3451 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I think Anne was more the first episode than Amends, even though Angel hasn't yet fallen naked from the sky at that point.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 9:46:26 am PST #3452 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Actually, I think that was me, and I stand by it.
Damn. 0 for 2 on the poster recall. Damn. Still a damn good analysis, and you're right to stand by it.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 9:47:16 am PST #3453 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
When did you two stop sharing a brain?
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 04, 2005 9:51:38 am PST #3454 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Interesting stuff, although I think she attributes the remnants of Fred's personality with far more influence on Illyria than the show supports, particularly concerning "The Girl in Question." While there were glimmers of Illyria adopting some of its host's fondness for Wesley and Gunn, it wasn't puttering around the lab and eating tacos as a way to explore Fred's identity. It adopted her appearance and behavior for a specific purpose: manipulating the emotions of the Burkels and sparing itself unpleasantness with the least possible effort. I think the gesture was also a useful demonstration of power over Wesley shortly after he disparaged its remaining abilities.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 9:53:56 am PST #3455 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Oh, Matt's note brought forth something to continue the "heartbreaking moments in the 'verse" discussion:
Change back; be blue.
With my luck today, someone already posted that one in the Buffy thread.
victor infante - Mar 04, 2005 9:58:53 am PST #3456 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
When did you two stop sharing a brain?
We haven't. "Anne" marked the stylistic beginning, introducing the more "Real World" of Buffyverse!Los Angeles (If LA can ever be said to be "real world") whereas "Amends" marked the beginning of Angel's next journey, his proper search for redemption and the flat-out admission that higher powers were actively involved in his life.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 10:03:40 am PST #3457 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
We haven't. "Anne" marked the stylistic beginning, introducing the more "Real World" of Buffyverse!Los Angeles (If LA can ever be said to be "real world") whereas "Amends" marked the beginning of Angel's next journey, his proper search for redemption and the flat-out admission that higher powers were actively involved in his life.
Hmm. Where was "Amends" in terms of the halfway mark of season 3? For some reason, I love the idea of it being the first show of the second half of season 3.
But I've got a thing for symmetry sometimes.
victor infante - Mar 04, 2005 10:13:41 am PST #3458 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Where was "Amends" in terms of the halfway mark of season 3? For some reason, I love the idea of it being the first show of the second half of season 3.
It was the Christmas episode, so just a bit past sweeps.
sumi - Mar 04, 2005 10:15:32 am PST #3459 of 3531
Art Crawl!!!
"Amends" was episode 10 of season 3. ("Gingerbread" is episode 11 - or the last episode of the first half of the season.)