All right, no one's killing folk today, on account of our very tight schedule.

Mal ,'Trash'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 9:46:26 am PST #3452 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Actually, I think that was me, and I stand by it.

Damn. 0 for 2 on the poster recall. Damn. Still a damn good analysis, and you're right to stand by it.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 9:47:16 am PST #3453 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

When did you two stop sharing a brain?


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 04, 2005 9:51:38 am PST #3454 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Interesting stuff, although I think she attributes the remnants of Fred's personality with far more influence on Illyria than the show supports, particularly concerning "The Girl in Question." While there were glimmers of Illyria adopting some of its host's fondness for Wesley and Gunn, it wasn't puttering around the lab and eating tacos as a way to explore Fred's identity. It adopted her appearance and behavior for a specific purpose: manipulating the emotions of the Burkels and sparing itself unpleasantness with the least possible effort. I think the gesture was also a useful demonstration of power over Wesley shortly after he disparaged its remaining abilities.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 9:53:56 am PST #3455 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, Matt's note brought forth something to continue the "heartbreaking moments in the 'verse" discussion:

Change back; be blue.

With my luck today, someone already posted that one in the Buffy thread.


victor infante - Mar 04, 2005 9:58:53 am PST #3456 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

When did you two stop sharing a brain?

We haven't. "Anne" marked the stylistic beginning, introducing the more "Real World" of Buffyverse!Los Angeles (If LA can ever be said to be "real world") whereas "Amends" marked the beginning of Angel's next journey, his proper search for redemption and the flat-out admission that higher powers were actively involved in his life.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 10:03:40 am PST #3457 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

We haven't. "Anne" marked the stylistic beginning, introducing the more "Real World" of Buffyverse!Los Angeles (If LA can ever be said to be "real world") whereas "Amends" marked the beginning of Angel's next journey, his proper search for redemption and the flat-out admission that higher powers were actively involved in his life.

Hmm. Where was "Amends" in terms of the halfway mark of season 3? For some reason, I love the idea of it being the first show of the second half of season 3.

But I've got a thing for symmetry sometimes.


victor infante - Mar 04, 2005 10:13:41 am PST #3458 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Where was "Amends" in terms of the halfway mark of season 3? For some reason, I love the idea of it being the first show of the second half of season 3.

It was the Christmas episode, so just a bit past sweeps.


sumi - Mar 04, 2005 10:15:32 am PST #3459 of 3531
Art Crawl!!!

"Amends" was episode 10 of season 3. ("Gingerbread" is episode 11 - or the last episode of the first half of the season.)


Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 10:23:05 am PST #3460 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Damn. Really close, though.


joe boucher - Mar 04, 2005 10:53:16 am PST #3461 of 3531
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Damn. Really close, though.

That was the season when the Columbine killings happened, so "Earshot" wasn't shown until the fall and "Graduation Day (Part 2)" was shown almost two months after part 1 (dates per Buffyworld.com). So in a way "Amends" was the midpoint, at least in terms of how things aired in the regular season.