Though there have been occasions where a former squick has gone away for some reason. That always makes me sad.
Tis better to have squicked and lost, than never to have squicked at all. Or something like that.
I miss Oz. He'd get it. He wouldn't say anything, but he'd get it.
Xander ,'Get It Done'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Frankenbuddha - Jan 11, 2005 11:01:23 am PST #3130 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Lyra Jane - Jan 11, 2005 11:18:15 am PST #3131 of 3531
Up with the sun
Scully/Giles is pretty easy to imagine for me. Buffy/Mulder ... I can see him lusting after her, but not much beyond that. (The fact he's biologically old enough to be her father does not help. Yeah, i know Angel is, like, five times Mulder's age, but ... is different.)
Neither squicks me as much as Buffy/Giles.
Steph L. - Jan 11, 2005 11:29:23 am PST #3132 of 3531
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
Neither squicks me as much as Buffy/Giles.
Buffy/Giles is a HUGE squick for me. Way way way more than Batman/Robin (whichever Robin you choose).
Connie Neil - Jan 11, 2005 11:33:28 am PST #3133 of 3531
brillig
I like some Buffy/Giles
But I understand the squick. I keep my darker pleasures to myself.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 11, 2005 12:46:52 pm PST #3134 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Well, when you get right down to it I'd say it's a lot healthier to have an inappropriate relationship with an older mentor figure than with a clammy reanimated corpse that's going to turn evil and try to kill you. Yet, Buffy/Giles still seems ickier than the canon romance.
Camcam - Jan 11, 2005 2:14:19 pm PST #3135 of 3531
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. --Tuco
Let's face it, Buffy/Angel is not so squicky because he LOOKS like a reasonable age for Buffy (or did at the time). Appearance counts for a lot, unfortunately for some of us.
§ ita § - Jan 11, 2005 2:17:12 pm PST #3136 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think age is a squick, unless one party is too young. I don't believe in too old, but I do believe in inappropriate interactions, and those have to do with relationships rather than age differences.
Also, Angel didn't act as old as Giles.
Steph L. - Jan 11, 2005 2:21:39 pm PST #3137 of 3531
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
And yet, Giles/Xander? Not squicky at all.
Though I get that Giles really only had a quasi-parental relationship with Buffy. (I just wanted to see "Giles/Xander" on my screen.)
§ ita § - Jan 11, 2005 2:24:02 pm PST #3138 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Giles really only had a quasi-parental relationship with Buffy
If she'd had a father in place, I could agree with the "only" and the "quasi." As it played out, he was more like a stepfather that just never had a Relationship with her mother, I think.
Beverly - Jan 11, 2005 2:25:13 pm PST #3139 of 3531
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
The thing is, Giles isn't and never was Buffy's father. And someday, she's going to be 30, 35, and the gap between a mature woman and an older man is not going to be as wide as it is between a teenager or young 20s and an older man.
And they have much in common, much that no one else on earth knows or shares, a uniquely shared POV in many cases.
Honestly--and I don't lay this out often because it's not the popular view on the board--slash simply for the novelty or the manipulation factor squicks me far more than an age gap. I think the age squick belongs to a very young POV. The squick isn't wrong, it's just one end of a spectrum. The other end runs to, as in toward, or perhaps through, pairings or groupings of entities regardless of species, gender, age, number of appendages, or lack thereof. And physical sex is (a very hot and enjoyable, granted) only a single way of expressing a multitude of emotional states.
Hrm. Sorry. Rant over.