And how much do I love it that we can still be having this kind of discussion? I miss my shows, dammit.
Book: I am a Shepherd. Folks like a man of God. Mal: No, they don't. Men of God make everyone feel guilty and judged.
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Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Frankenbuddha - Jan 05, 2005 5:54:04 am PST #2818 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Jim - Jan 05, 2005 5:54:45 am PST #2819 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Even Joss said, around the time of S4 Buffy/S1 Angel, when Faith woke up from the coma and went to LA, that that was the point at which he considered Angel to be its own show, standing on its own, though some of the characters had a shared history with Buffy
Feh. Josh who?
Steph L. - Jan 05, 2005 5:56:10 am PST #2820 of 3531
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
If it had just been Faith and a posse of newbie slayers (ie no Buffy or Willow), would you still feel that way?
Yes, because they hadn't even been mentioned since the Crazy!Slayer episode. The writers would have had to lay a LOT of non-anvilly groundwork throughout the 2nd half of the season for me to buy anyone swooping in to join the battle.
Jessica - Jan 05, 2005 5:57:47 am PST #2821 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Angel was always a spinoff, to me, and it seemed right that the parent show should re-enfold it at the end. It's the Buffyverse, not the Angelverse
full body shudder
I know that this viewpoint is probably more common than my own, but I can't help it -- it gives me hives. Angel was my favorite show for 4 years while Buffy was becoming unwatchable. Angel was the grown-up show. It never needed to be defined by its relationship to Buffy, any more than Angel-the-character needed to be.
Jim - Jan 05, 2005 5:58:53 am PST #2822 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
See, they had the whole "fuck you, you're with the bad boys now" stuff, so I figure once they're back on the path to righteousness they get backup.
Steph L. - Jan 05, 2005 5:58:56 am PST #2823 of 3531
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
I know that this viewpoint is probably more common than my own, but I can't help it -- it gives me hives. Angel was my favorite show for 4 years while Buffy was becoming unwatchable. Angel was the grown-up show. It never needed to be defined by its relationship to Buffy, any more than Angel-the-character needed to be.
I'm right there with you.
Jessica - Jan 05, 2005 6:02:18 am PST #2824 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
(And, honestly, even if I didn't feel so strongly about Angel standing on its own, I loathed Buffy S7. So the fewer reminders of it, period, the better.)
Connie Neil - Jan 05, 2005 6:03:12 am PST #2825 of 3531
brillig
Angel was the grown-up show
That's the reason I gave Hubby when he asked me why I liked AtS better than BtVS.
Jim - Jan 05, 2005 6:05:32 am PST #2826 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Angel was the grown-up show.
We've never had a proper, knock-down, drag-out Buffy vs Angel fite, have we?
That might be fun...
Frankenbuddha - Jan 05, 2005 6:05:52 am PST #2827 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
See, they had the whole "fuck you, you're with the bad boys now" stuff, so I figure once they're back on the path to righteousness they get backup.
Right. I figure the Slayer contingent has enough psychic/magic firepower that they would know what's going on. It's whether I could buy them wanting to help Angel's crew after the rest of their contact season 5. They'll be dealing with any aftermath in any case.
Again, not that I actually wanted to see that, cause I love the way it did end. But I could buy it. If they'd SHOWN the big battle, however they set it up, that would have ticked me off.