But if the world doesn't end, I'm gonna need a note.

Cordelia ,'Potential'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Wolfram - Jan 05, 2005 5:38:34 am PST #2811 of 3531
Visilurking

My issue with it is simple. Show not called Buffy.

So? Had it been Illyria or Faith or Nina or anyone else would you have the same issue? Wait, was Illyria there?


Steph L. - Jan 05, 2005 5:47:08 am PST #2812 of 3531
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

My issue with it is simple. Show not called Buffy.

So? Had it been Illyria or Faith or Nina or anyone else would you have the same issue?

Illyria was there. Illyria and Nina were characters on Angel the show. They were part of it. Bringing in Buffy would have been, to me, very Deus ex Machina.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 05, 2005 5:47:44 am PST #2813 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Wait, was Illyria there?

Yep. And I'd lay odds on her surviving, at least, given what she can do to a car.


Connie Neil - Jan 05, 2005 5:48:10 am PST #2814 of 3531
brillig

Illyria, Nina, Lilah, Kate the Cop, Gwen the Electro-Girl--I was seriously expecting her somewhere in there.


Jim - Jan 05, 2005 5:48:55 am PST #2815 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

That, I guess, is just a difference in view - Angel was always a spinoff, to me, and it seemed right that the parent show should re-enfold it at the end. It's the Buffyverse, not the Angelverse.


Steph L. - Jan 05, 2005 5:51:58 am PST #2816 of 3531
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Angel was always a spinoff, to me, and it seemed right that the parent show should re-enfold it at the end.

Hmm. Even Joss said, around the time of S4 Buffy/S1 Angel, when Faith woke up from the coma and went to LA, that that was the point at which he considered Angel to be its own show, standing on its own, though some of the characters had a shared history with Buffy.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 05, 2005 5:52:22 am PST #2817 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

very Deus ex Machina

If it had just been Faith and a posse of newbie slayers (ie no Buffy or Willow), would you still feel that way? Because I DID feel that Faith was as much a part of ANGEL as she was a part of BUFFY. Not that I want that ending, but given the situation errupting, I would think the Slayers were going to be dealing with the mess in LA at some point.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 05, 2005 5:54:04 am PST #2818 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And how much do I love it that we can still be having this kind of discussion? I miss my shows, dammit.


Jim - Jan 05, 2005 5:54:45 am PST #2819 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Even Joss said, around the time of S4 Buffy/S1 Angel, when Faith woke up from the coma and went to LA, that that was the point at which he considered Angel to be its own show, standing on its own, though some of the characters had a shared history with Buffy

Feh. Josh who?


Steph L. - Jan 05, 2005 5:56:10 am PST #2820 of 3531
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

If it had just been Faith and a posse of newbie slayers (ie no Buffy or Willow), would you still feel that way?

Yes, because they hadn't even been mentioned since the Crazy!Slayer episode. The writers would have had to lay a LOT of non-anvilly groundwork throughout the 2nd half of the season for me to buy anyone swooping in to join the battle.