If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

Book ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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Susan W. - Jan 02, 2005 4:50:32 pm PST #2751 of 3531
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Connie, it's from The Four Loves.


SailAweigh - Jan 02, 2005 4:52:45 pm PST #2752 of 3531
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

The Four Loves

Ah. I read that at some point. I think I even have a copy. It made me cry. I need to find it and read it again.


Connie Neil - Jan 02, 2005 4:53:34 pm PST #2753 of 3531
brillig

Back to the library!


Lyra Jane - Jan 02, 2005 4:54:51 pm PST #2754 of 3531
Up with the sun

Susan, I posted that in my LJ so I will see it and think about it often. Thank you.


Gandalfe - Jan 02, 2005 4:56:15 pm PST #2755 of 3531
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

As did I.


Susan W. - Jan 02, 2005 5:09:23 pm PST #2756 of 3531
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

You're welcome. It's always been one of my favorite quotes.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 02, 2005 5:12:38 pm PST #2757 of 3531
What is even happening?

Wild, "It's a sickness, Buffy" might be "It's like a sickness, Buffy," I'm never sure, and is from the beginning of one of the two hours of Graduation Day. Willow has just exchanged many phony, yet oddly heartfelt pleasantries with Harmony, and is saying she is going to miss Harmony.

To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything and your heart will certainly be wrung and possibly be broken. If you want to be sure of keeping it intact, you must give your heart to no-one, not even to an animal. Wrap it carefully around with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements; lock it up safely in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket--safe, dark, motionless, airless--it will change. It will not be broken, it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. The alternative to tragedy is damnation. The only place outside heaven you can be safe from all the dangers and perturbations of love is hell.
I often wonder if Lewis would approve of a person like me using that quote for a raw, sexy feminist romance novel. But I figure if he has a problem with it, he can take it up with me once I'm dead too.

Gah, love him. Lewis in his time? Well, I don't know. Lewis perfected and invulnerable? He'd get over it. He is, after all, the one who wrote The Screwtape Letters, in which he (correctly, imo) pointed out (via Screwtape) that in say, adultery, it is not the pleasure that's the sin. The sin's already occured, but the pleasure is there by design. The sin's in the betrayal, and the awful feelings.

Of course, it's way better than that, because it's Lewis. If I can hunt it down (Oh, how I long to use Control+F on my books), I'll post it tomorrow.


Stephanie - Jan 02, 2005 5:20:17 pm PST #2758 of 3531
Trust my rage

I've been away for a few minutes, but I had to join in on the Lewis love. LWW was one of the first books my mom ever read to me, but I love his other stuff too. Shadowlands was a movie that moved me, although talking about it again makes me want to add it to my netflix queue


WildDemon Cornelius - Jan 02, 2005 5:20:46 pm PST #2759 of 3531
Take your fingers off it, don't you dare touch it, you know it don't belong to you, to you...

We know there is an afterlife, but Fred—perhaps uniquely among human beings—doesn't get one. Or if the best authority on the process is wrong, then what Fred gets is for little rotted shards of her self-awareness to exist forever mired in the midst of Illyria's far vaster self.

Ack. Good point. The rumours about Season Six seem to indicate that they might have gone with the latter, but we don't really know for sure. They never specifically said that Fred didn't get an afterlife (which is actually a pretty vague concept in the Jossverse; the only real time that it is discussed is Buffy in Season Six), but they did say that her soul was destroyed rather than flying off somewhere. In some belief systems (Gnosticism, I think, and maybe other branches of Christianity), people have a separate "soul" and a separate "spirit"; I'm not clear on the difference between those and the Jossverse only ever mentions "souls" but that is one slightly cheap way to give Fred an afterlife.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 03, 2005 5:48:38 am PST #2760 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

They never specifically said that Fred didn't get an afterlife

How else would one interpret "There's nothing left to bring back. Miss Burkle's soul was consumed by the fires of resurrection. Everything she was is gone" then?