Wesley: All right. I'm going to let you all in on something you may have trouble comprehending. I assure you however-- Gunn: Vampires are real. Wesley: I was telling!

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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Topic!Cindy - Jan 02, 2005 5:12:38 pm PST #2757 of 3531
What is even happening?

Wild, "It's a sickness, Buffy" might be "It's like a sickness, Buffy," I'm never sure, and is from the beginning of one of the two hours of Graduation Day. Willow has just exchanged many phony, yet oddly heartfelt pleasantries with Harmony, and is saying she is going to miss Harmony.

To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything and your heart will certainly be wrung and possibly be broken. If you want to be sure of keeping it intact, you must give your heart to no-one, not even to an animal. Wrap it carefully around with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements; lock it up safely in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket--safe, dark, motionless, airless--it will change. It will not be broken, it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. The alternative to tragedy is damnation. The only place outside heaven you can be safe from all the dangers and perturbations of love is hell.
I often wonder if Lewis would approve of a person like me using that quote for a raw, sexy feminist romance novel. But I figure if he has a problem with it, he can take it up with me once I'm dead too.

Gah, love him. Lewis in his time? Well, I don't know. Lewis perfected and invulnerable? He'd get over it. He is, after all, the one who wrote The Screwtape Letters, in which he (correctly, imo) pointed out (via Screwtape) that in say, adultery, it is not the pleasure that's the sin. The sin's already occured, but the pleasure is there by design. The sin's in the betrayal, and the awful feelings.

Of course, it's way better than that, because it's Lewis. If I can hunt it down (Oh, how I long to use Control+F on my books), I'll post it tomorrow.


Stephanie - Jan 02, 2005 5:20:17 pm PST #2758 of 3531
Trust my rage

I've been away for a few minutes, but I had to join in on the Lewis love. LWW was one of the first books my mom ever read to me, but I love his other stuff too. Shadowlands was a movie that moved me, although talking about it again makes me want to add it to my netflix queue


WildDemon Cornelius - Jan 02, 2005 5:20:46 pm PST #2759 of 3531
Take your fingers off it, don't you dare touch it, you know it don't belong to you, to you...

We know there is an afterlife, but Fred—perhaps uniquely among human beings—doesn't get one. Or if the best authority on the process is wrong, then what Fred gets is for little rotted shards of her self-awareness to exist forever mired in the midst of Illyria's far vaster self.

Ack. Good point. The rumours about Season Six seem to indicate that they might have gone with the latter, but we don't really know for sure. They never specifically said that Fred didn't get an afterlife (which is actually a pretty vague concept in the Jossverse; the only real time that it is discussed is Buffy in Season Six), but they did say that her soul was destroyed rather than flying off somewhere. In some belief systems (Gnosticism, I think, and maybe other branches of Christianity), people have a separate "soul" and a separate "spirit"; I'm not clear on the difference between those and the Jossverse only ever mentions "souls" but that is one slightly cheap way to give Fred an afterlife.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 03, 2005 5:48:38 am PST #2760 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

They never specifically said that Fred didn't get an afterlife

How else would one interpret "There's nothing left to bring back. Miss Burkle's soul was consumed by the fires of resurrection. Everything she was is gone" then?


Wolfram - Jan 03, 2005 8:36:06 am PST #2761 of 3531
Visilurking

How else would one interpret "There's nothing left to bring back. Miss Burkle's soul was consumed by the fires of resurrection. Everything she was is gone" then?

She took a role on Charmed?


Narrator - Jan 03, 2005 8:38:11 am PST #2762 of 3531
The evil is this way?

No, silly. She's a programming exec at the Fox Network.


Vortex - Jan 03, 2005 8:47:43 am PST #2763 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

apparently, Amy Acker is going to voice a character on the Justice League.


Kathy A - Jan 03, 2005 8:52:54 am PST #2764 of 3531
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I was just poking around TWoP, reading some old recaps during lunch, and giggled myself through the recap of "Smile Time."

"If he turns into a puppet before the first commercial break, the show gets an A! If he vamps out as a puppet, it's an A+!...Whoohoo! A+!!"


Tom Scola - Jan 03, 2005 8:57:48 am PST #2765 of 3531
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

apparently, Amy Acker is going to voice a character on the Justice League.

That's not all:

[link]

Morena Baccarin, who plays Inara Serra in the Firefly television series and upcoming Serenity movie, is providing the voice of Black Canary in Cartoon Network's Justice League Unlimited.

Black Canary will be featured in the Season 4 episode, "Double Date," which is written by Gail Simone. The episode also features Kin Shriner as Green Arrow, Amy Acker as The Huntress and Jeffrey Combs as The Question, along with some other guest voices to be announced.

Baccarin is one of several Firefly/Serenity cast members to lend their voices to Justice League Unlimited.

As previously reported, Nathan Fillion is voicing Vigilante and Gina Torres is voicing Vixen. Adam Baldwin is voicing a villain in the season finale.


libkitty - Jan 03, 2005 9:23:51 am PST #2766 of 3531
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

several Firefly/Serenity cast members to lend their voices to Justice League Unlimited.

Yet another thing tempting me towards big cable. I...will...resist... aaaahhhhh.