'War Stories'
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I was mostly thinking of the deaths that Joss gives us that make us think he's a sick bastard, and we're not healthy for loving them so. That's why, since we already knew that Angel and his brood had a death behind them, they didn't quite count as audience abuse.
Of course, not everyone stayed dead, but I was wondering about how often we were dealt that feeling of loss. Which flashback kinda obviates.
Darla's first death was really just filling in the details, but it didn't have the gut-wrenching HSQ factor to it.
Fred, Doyle, Cordy, and Wes.
Man, Angel, way to get your sidekicks killed.
...suddenly, all the Batman jokes make a lot more sense.
Wes hurt at the time but since it was the last ep, I never got to really feel that pain. There was a wound but no salt poured into it or anything.
I feel the same way, but it's funny. Since Wes spent so little time of the series dead (10-15 minutes?), it's easy to forget it happens. But it hits me now and then and makes me sad.
As overwraught as the Fred thing was, I bought into every second of it and cried like a big fat sap through 2 whole episodes. I wouldn't have minded Cordy's death much if she'd flat out died at the end of S4. Or S3. But You're Welcome (right?) brought back the very best Cordelia, making the revelation at the end allergy-inducing.
I'm wroding everyone who forgets that Wes is dead from time to time.
Man, Angel, way to get your sidekicks killed.
Heh. After watching The Avengers steadily with JZ for several months now, I've finally realized why England fell behind the States in the computer race besides having Babbage and Ada and Turing and all those homegrown geniuses. It's because Steed and Peel leave an apalling bodycount of Britain's Top Scientists, never saving a single one. An entire generation of Britain's best minds, lopped off while John and Emma were drinking champagne and toodling around the countryside.
Since Wes spent so little time of the series dead (10-15 minutes?), it's easy to forget it happens. But it hits me now and then and makes me sad.
But You're Welcome (right?) brought back the very best Cordelia, making the revelation at the end allergy-inducing.Lilty is so me.
Except for the Fred part. Not that I didn't get sniffley. I just felt like I was being jerked around for the tears.
Heh. After watching The Avengers steadily with JZ for several months now, I've finally realized why England fell behind the States in the computer race besides having Babbage and Ada and Turing and all those homegrown geniuses. It's because Steed and Peel leave an apalling bodycount of Britain's Top Scientists, never saving a single one. An entire generation of Britain's best minds, lopped off while John and Emma were drinking champagne and toodling around the countryside.
Bwahahahaha!!!!
And the ones that didn't get offed got kidnapped and brought to the Village, so there you go.
An entire generation of Britain's best minds, lopped off while John and Emma were drinking champagne and toodling around the countryside.
But they were evil and insane!
Cass, you don't have to whitefont aired Angel in this thread.
Fred's death hurt me. Wesley's didn't because we didn't really have any time to process the ramifications in-show, so I tend to forget about it. Cordy's death didn't make me sad because they had massacred the character so much that it just felt like an afterthought. Lilah's hurt me for Wesley's sake.
I know it's not so much a death as a reality reset, but Connor's "death" in "Home" hurt because it was tragic all around.