It was Angelus, alright. But he wasn't at full strength. The drug knocked out the conscious mind of Angel and let Angelus take over the body to a great degree.
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DCJensen - Sep 26, 2004 4:28:19 pm PDT #2456 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.
Gandalfe - Sep 26, 2004 4:31:12 pm PDT #2457 of 3531
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
Oh...that explains your e, Gandalfe.
Exactly. Lots of acid coupled with a long walk in a spoooooooky canyon.
P.M. Marc - Sep 26, 2004 4:31:46 pm PDT #2458 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
It was Angelus, alright. But he wasn't at full strength. The drug knocked out the conscious mind of Angel and let Angelus take over the body to a great degree.
That's not exactly what canon tells us.
Lee - Sep 26, 2004 4:31:51 pm PDT #2459 of 3531
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I don't think it was established that it wasn't Angelus, only that it was temporary. DruggedAngel believed he was Angelus, was looking to do some damage, and had the tools needed to do that damage.
Gandalfe - Sep 26, 2004 4:32:45 pm PDT #2460 of 3531
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
It was Angelus, alright. But he wasn't at full strength. The drug knocked out the conscious mind of Angel and let Angelus take over the body to a great degree.
Does that mean then that whenever Angel is asleep, it's really Angelus?
P.M. Marc - Sep 26, 2004 4:33:26 pm PDT #2461 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I don't think it was established that it wasn't Angelus, only that it was temporary.
Between what was said in the aired show, and what we seen in the script that I can't remember if it aired or not, the strong impression given is that it was simulated Angelus.
DCJensen - Sep 26, 2004 4:35:43 pm PDT #2462 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.
No, I meant the episode indicated it was a euphoria brought on by the drug that temporarily let Angelus control Angel's body. I guess that's what I meant by "knocked out his conscious mind."
Topic!Cindy - Sep 26, 2004 4:35:44 pm PDT #2463 of 3531
What is even happening?
I don't think it was established that it wasn't Angelus, only that it was temporary. DruggedAngel believed he was Angelus, was looking to do some damage, and had the tools needed to do that damage.
I start with a different premise, but come to the same conclusion (or basically, I'm with Plei wrt canon).
Or, this is how I think it goes: Angel did not experience true happiness. He experienced pharmaceutical (and therefore not "true") bliss. The drugs didn't remove his remorse, they knocked it unconscious, so Angel basically felt the way he feels when he is sans soul.
Lee - Sep 26, 2004 4:36:06 pm PDT #2464 of 3531
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Ah. I didn't see the script.
Was simulated Angelus necessarily weaker than "real" Angelus?
DCJensen - Sep 26, 2004 4:37:41 pm PDT #2465 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.
I just never got the impression anywhere that it was Angel thinking he was Angelus.