Well, that is reason enough to NOT watch. . . perhaps Taye Diggs brought all the pretty to UPN at that timeslot.
Giles! I accidentally killed Spike. That's okay, right?
Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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sumi - Sep 23, 2004 5:07:44 pm PDT #2417 of 3531
Art Crawl!!!
Vortex - Sep 23, 2004 7:23:48 pm PDT #2418 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Oliver Hudson is very pretty, but they've done something to make him less so on The Mountain.
they've got all of that crap in his hair.
Well, that is reason enough to NOT watch. . . perhaps Taye Diggs brought all the pretty to UPN at that timeslot.
taye diggs is WAY pretty, but I'm so tired of the "let's give the careless dilletante some responsibility by dumping a kid in their lap" and, for the record, you cannot WILL your children to anyone. You can make a request, but in the absence of a parent, ultimately the court decides.
tiggy - Sep 24, 2004 2:19:57 am PDT #2419 of 3531
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
they've got all of that crap in his hair.
that could be it. i just adored him on Dawson's Creek and if Joey didn't end up with Pacey, i wanted her to end up with his character.
sumi - Sep 24, 2004 4:13:59 am PDT #2420 of 3531
Art Crawl!!!
Don't people have to agree to be a child's guardian in the event of the death of a parent?
Vortex - Sep 24, 2004 5:03:38 am PDT #2421 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Don't people have to agree to be a child's guardian in the event of the death of a parent?
YES!!!!! But the way these stories usually go is that if the person doesn't take the kid, it would go into foster care, and who wants that, etc.
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 24, 2004 8:25:18 am PDT #2422 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It's fortunate that Best Friend's wife has lots of siblings. Frankly, I think the kids would have better chances getting the required supervision and affection at the orphanage than they would if I were saddled with them.
Stephanie - Sep 24, 2004 4:41:00 pm PDT #2423 of 3531
Trust my rage
So I was watching Sacrifice tonight on my DVDs and I notice Fred saying, "I never want to be a shell" or something close to that.
I like the foreshadowing. This is one of the reasons why it's fun to go back and watch again.
sfmarty - Sep 24, 2004 4:43:30 pm PDT #2424 of 3531
Who? moi??
Yeh, I heard that too, and shuddered.
DCJensen - Sep 24, 2004 5:57:11 pm PDT #2425 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.
GUNN
You heard Angel. Feelings don't
enter into it anymore.
Fred stops.
FRED
That the world we're fighting for?
The right to be heartless? An
uncaring shell... To be dead inside?
GUNN
We're gonna be dead, period, if
Jasmine gets a hold of that kid.
We're fighting for our survival.
FRED
That's not enough, Charles. Not for
me. Maybe you can turn off your
feelings like Angel. Leave people we
care about behind--
GUNN
Well, you had no trouble switching
off your emotion chip when--
He stops himself, shakes his head, then continues on.
FRED
When what?
GUNN
Nothing.
FRED
What were you going to say?
GUNN
Forget it.
FRED
(grabbing his arm)
No. When did I ever--
GUNN
(turning to her)
When you and I killed a man.
Fred stares at him, stunned he's brought it up.
GUNN (cont'd)
I mean... when I did.
FRED
We did.
GUNN
Whatever. Point is, when the
circumstances called for it, you did
what you thought you had to do.
Didn't matter what any one else
thought. The people around you.
Fred looks at him a beat.
FRED
You're right about it all except for
one thing. What we did... I felt
it. Every bit of it. And, y'know,
sometimes, when I let myself think
about it... It eats me up inside.
GUNN
Yeah. Me, too.
FRED
Well, I don't know about you... But
I'll take that over being a shell
anyday.
SailAweigh - Sep 24, 2004 6:03:33 pm PDT #2426 of 3531
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
It's even more ironic when you consider that in both season 4 and seaon 5, it's Gunn who's is pivotal in Fred becoming a "shell," perceived or real. Eek. That's why I loved these shows, they put so damn much thought into what they wrote.