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Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 16, 2004 1:22:26 pm PDT #2203 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Speaking of social norms, it always amused me that when Angel acted anachronistic, he tended to come off like a grumpy 70 year old man, rather than someone closer to 270. Like, if you reach a certain age, even if you look no older, you are automatically granted membership in the crabby golfers' club.

Well, to be fair to Joss, there aren't that many actual 270 year-olds around to pattern Angel's behavior after. If we figure the return of his soul in 1898 as being a fresh start for determining behavior and attitudes, he'd probably bear some resemblance to the most aged of people in nursing homes.


Jim - Aug 16, 2004 9:32:21 pm PDT #2204 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

It would have been ace, though. "What! They've Reformed Parliament? And what's this I hear about the Corn Laws? Bloody Whigs!"


d - Aug 18, 2004 4:15:55 am PDT #2205 of 3531
It's nice to see some brave pretenders trying to make it interesting.

I have a hivemind question for you: Did Sahjahn's hate-on for Angel ever get fully explained? He seemed awfully pissed at Angel when he swoops in at the bar where Angel & Lilah were exchanging barbs, but his whole thing was only to prevent Connor from killing him according to that prophecy, right? What did Angel have to do with it? Connor was already alive, and Angel wouldn't have set him on that path (at least at that time) because he didn't even know who Sahjahn was. What am I missing, and what episode(s) was it in?


sumi - Aug 18, 2004 4:47:42 am PDT #2206 of 3531
Art Crawl!!!

Boreanaz keeps Angel Alive from the TV Guide Insider.


Polter-Cow - Aug 18, 2004 4:57:36 am PDT #2207 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What did Angel have to do with it?

"Have we met? Cause I don't remember swearing..." As far as I can tell, the hate-on is solely Connor-based: Connor is Sahjhan's bane, and thus he hates his whole family. I certainly don't recall anything else about Angel specifically. Personally, I love Sahjhan, and if his motivations are a little murky, I don't even care.

"It's better," he teases, adding, "'Four' would be the magic number — that's all I'm going to say." (Our guess? It's the in-the-works fourth Indiana Jones pic.)

Wha? This guy obviously isn't in on the Fantastic Four rumors.


Jim - Aug 18, 2004 4:59:41 am PDT #2208 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

""I'm going to be doing some dancing"

Oh dear. I was thinking about who can/should parlay Buffy/Angel into a wider career and who'll be doing conventions in 20 years. With a few exceptions (Seth Green, ASH) Buffy breaks down by gender; SMG, Alyson, Amber B, Emma Caulfield I can see having real careers (the first two alredy do, of course), while Nick Brendon, Boreanez and Marsters I can't see getting out of the shadow of the show. Marsters seems aware of that - it's no coincidence that he's the one most frantically talking up the TVMs - but although he's a far more versatile actor than the other two, I think he's in the Fonzie Trap for life.

With Angel it's harder to call. If Denisof doesn't have a serious Clive Owen career there's no justice (there isn't), and obviously Andy Hallett will never act in the majors again, but I reckon Amy Acker and JAR could go either way. CC, sadly, is that little bit too old to make the jump - although she deserves to.


Stephanie - Aug 18, 2004 5:49:41 am PDT #2209 of 3531
Trust my rage

obviously Andy Hallett will never act in the majors again

Because of his heart problem? (is that what it was? I can't remember) Is he doing any better?


Jim - Aug 18, 2004 5:54:11 am PDT #2210 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

No, because he's a cabaret artist.


Jessica - Aug 18, 2004 6:25:18 am PDT #2211 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Amazon just sent me a pre-order email for S4. Squee!


Lyra Jane - Aug 18, 2004 6:46:48 am PDT #2212 of 3531
Up with the sun

CC, sadly, is that little bit too old to make the jump - although she deserves to.

I think CC will work in TV for as long as she wants to. I don't see her being a superstar, but she's reasonably funny and seems to be willing to do about anything, so I expect she'll get another series at some point.

SMG may well be a "where are they now?" in 15 years, unless she gets better taste in scripts fast, or "The Grudge" turns out to be a breakout part instead of a routine horror movie. She definitely has the talent to cross over, but I'm not sure she's managing her career very well, and I don't think she wants to do TV again.

I want to see Emma and Amy Acker succeed, but it's hard to predict.