She's terse. I can be terse. Once in flight school, I was laconic.

Wash ,'War Stories'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


P.M. Marc - May 26, 2004 9:49:07 pm PDT #1578 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The guac is green, so it can apparently be foiled with yellow. Fucking Green Lantern. His enemies piss in the snow while he's bound in Crime Scene Tape and the guy is toast. Why is this a superhero?

The funniest part is that for pretty much the whole of Kyle's run as GL, that's what all the fanboys have been asking.

I recall reading an issue of Flash where Wally and Hal (Green Lantern before Kyle) are in Gorilla City and the 'rillas are fending them off with bananas.

It is quite possibly the stupidest weakness since the 1940s Wonder Woman men-tie-her-up vulnerability.

And maybe Allyson doesn't seethe. Unless she wants to.

Somedays, she's downright cordial 'bout things.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 26, 2004 11:02:02 pm PDT #1579 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

And maybe Allyson doesn't seethe. Unless she wants to.

Allyson seethes, and is better at it than anyone I know. Welcome aboard, Strega!

(Though I had a sudden moment of feeling better about this fandom today when I accidentally wandered into a comics board. Even the worst of the K*tten stuff seems sane and tame compared to the Green Lantern Wars.)

Ah. You've just reminded me of a couple years I spent hearing near-constant rants about Kevin Dooley from my Green Lantern-obsessed former roomie. Pray for the man should we ever meet at a comic convention, because I OWE HIM PAIN!!!


UTTAD - May 26, 2004 11:58:05 pm PDT #1580 of 3531
Strawberry disappointment.

in brightest day, in blackest night
no evil shall escape my sight
let those who worship evil's might
beware my power--green lantern's light!

So this Green Latern chap, does he write spells for the Charmed ones?

The ending of Angel for me was spot on, so spot on that I don't want any more. If it was a different ending then I would want more, but it wasn't. If it was, then the new, later, ending would have to be same as the ending we got. Clear?


Anne W. - May 27, 2004 3:05:13 am PDT #1581 of 3531
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'd love to see the story of what I call the Fray-inducing-event. The big final fight.

Here's my wank on the subject:

By pissing off the senior partners, and unleashing the demons, dragons, etc., Angel has managed to create a huge mess. One that needed to be created, perhaps, but a mess all the same.

Assuming that Angel and crew are ultimately defeated in the third, fourth, fifth, whatever wave of demons, there will still be a lot of very powerful demons on the loose. The Deeper Well is without a guardian. The fall of one of W&H's main offices and the removal of the Black Thorn has left one hell of a power vacuum that various unsavory types will be all too eager to fill.

In a way, this rush of evil is the balance to the closing of the Sunnydale Hellmouth, the (temporary) defeat of the First, and the awakening of the Slayers. Things are balanced, but it's the sort of balance that is defined by the phrase "mutually assured destruction."

I do think that hordes of Slayers will descend upon LA, but it probably wouldn't be until it was too late for the MoG and a sizeable chunk of the U.S. population.

In the resulting battle (which would probably involve more than just the slayers--didn't Fray imply that nuclear weapons or some such had been used in the past?) the magical forces of Good and Evil would fight each other to a standstill, and I could well imagine the original Scoobies doing the shut-down or whatever it was that was referenced in Fray.

In other words, the vampire with a soul does wind up playing a pivotal role in THE apocalypse.

He triggers it.


brenda m - May 27, 2004 3:12:48 am PDT #1582 of 3531
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

How much do I love Anne?


MechaKrelboyne - May 27, 2004 3:23:41 am PDT #1583 of 3531
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious

I can get behind that. It's got a bit of Rorschach appeal to it. 'Never compromise. even in the face of armaggeddon. hurm' and all that.

This is making me think of the demonic presence on earth as a bit of a cold war, all fought in the shadows, the general populace unaware, or at least unwilling to admit awareness. Then Angel comes along and says 'Screw that noise. Forget sneaking up on evil and poking it in the kidneys. I'ma step right up and kick evil square in the nuts. Twice.' Kind of thing that really tips the pot over, and now there's a demon army on the march through LA, and everyone who's still hiding feels kind of stupid about it.

The only thing that bugs me about Wes's death (even though I knew they boy was toast. Prophecy face and all that) is that his proximity to Jerusalem index went through the roof when he started talking about separating the truth from illusion, and that reminded me of the spinoff series he should have. But pipe dreams aside, he died bloody, he died trying, and he died failing, even though he created circumstances for someone else to succeed. For Wesley, that's about as close to a perfect day as you'll find.


Topic!Cindy - May 27, 2004 4:02:17 am PDT #1584 of 3531
What is even happening?

How much do I love Anne?

The line starts to my rear brenda (because it's a readily identifiable spot).

In other words, the vampire with a soul does wind up playing a pivotal role in THE apocalypse.

He triggers it.

Yes! Because that's what Angels do best. And frequently in an alley. Sometimes with rain. Poor Angel.


OtherKate - May 27, 2004 4:15:41 am PDT #1585 of 3531
This heart ain't gonna cut itself out

The guac is green, so it can apparently be foiled with yellow. Fucking Green Lantern. His enemies piss in the snow while he's bound in Crime Scene Tape and the guy is toast. Why is this a superhero?

Sigh. Between Green Lantern and Aquaman, I'm having some serious doubts about this whole superhero thing. I guess it's because I didn't grow up with it or something, because my husband really digs Green Lantern and I was like but..but...his weakness is a color?! I think I could kill Green Lantern. I have some yellow sweaters.


§ ita § - May 27, 2004 4:20:23 am PDT #1586 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think I'm only feeling wont do defend Green Lantern because he rocks so hard on the JL cartoon, but since he's a big muscly guy, you'd have to bring more to the party than yellow, since only it's his ring that wouldn't work against yellow -- not anything else.

Also, the current Earth Green Lantern's ring has no such weakness.

What's wrong with Aquaman?


Scrappy - May 27, 2004 4:22:49 am PDT #1587 of 3531
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

ita, what are you doing up so early?