Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.
'The Train Job'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Scrutinizer - May 25, 2004 4:49:29 am PDT #1445 of 3531
I've lived to bury my desires,/And see my dreams corrode with rust;/Now all that left are fruitless fires/That burn my empty heart to dust.
Frankenbuddha - May 25, 2004 4:50:11 am PDT #1446 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Now I'll fight to the death for the Ship, but the best XF eps were the early arc episodes, and those are almost never chosen.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this, as I can pretty much only stomach the standalones these days. But that may be in part because I can't forget where the arc went (i.e. nowhere really slowly) enough to see even the good arc-y episodes without feeling a slow burn of rage.
Vonnie K - May 25, 2004 4:51:59 am PDT #1447 of 3531
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
I would put "Bad Blood" on my top ten list of XF, easy, because as parodies go, it's pretty damn perfect. PMP does get a bit heavy-handed in a few spots, but it's still enjoyable.
"Arcadia" and "Unnatural"--meh. Shippy XF-lite seems about right. And I've always thought "Triangle" was overrated.
As for the Angel list--agree that lack of AYNOHYEB is a head scratcher. But I like most of the picks on that list... well, except IWRY, which always makes me laugh like the drain and roll my eyes instead of making me cry. I'd have put in Rm w/ A View instead of "Spin the Bottle", and I've always thought "Hero" was poorly conceived, anvilicious, and shamelessly manipulative (I still bawl like a baby at the end every time I watch it, then I get vaguely pissed afterward), but I could see why people picked it.
Sue - May 25, 2004 4:53:18 am PDT #1448 of 3531
hip deep in pie
A list without AYNOHYEB is not a list made by humans from my dimension. It stands alone beautifully.
I agree. There was so many amazing moments in Season Two and Three that never made the list. And five from Season Five? Bah! We just saw them.
Sue - May 25, 2004 4:54:38 am PDT #1449 of 3531
hip deep in pie
It's amazing to be that I have no desire to watch X-Files at all. I loved the first five seasons so.
brenda m - May 25, 2004 4:54:42 am PDT #1450 of 3531
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Hmm. I like AYNOHYEB, but it seems to me there was a fair amount of dissent here when it aired. Am I remembering wrong?
Birthday is one I'd like to see again.
Frankenbuddha - May 25, 2004 4:55:22 am PDT #1451 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I've read here in b.org some people complaining about BtVS melting down in S6-7, but that was nothing to what happened to TXF.
Oh yeah. I liked 6 & 7, but even those who didn't have admitted that it never got as bad as late era XFiles. I personally think that Buffy got too arc-dependent in the later seasons (that is, the arc and the ideas were driving the plot and the characters rather than the other way around), which always seemed to result in mid-season lethargy after season 3. But you could generally see what Whedon and company were trying for, even if their reach exceeded their grasp.
Scrutinizer - May 25, 2004 4:55:25 am PDT #1452 of 3531
I've lived to bury my desires,/And see my dreams corrode with rust;/Now all that left are fruitless fires/That burn my empty heart to dust.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this, as I can pretty much only stomach the standalones these days. But that may be in part because I can't forget where the arc went (i.e. nowhere really slowly) enough to see even the good arc-y episodes without feeling a slow burn of rage.Oh, well, I'm there too. The best XF eps ever were the Anasazi, Blessing Way, Paper Clip arc, but I can't watch any of that now without cursing loudly and throwing things at the TV, which my wife says is inappropriate for someone approaching 50.
I'm just saying that viewer's choice eps for arcy series(es ?) never seem to reflect the meat of the show; they just tend to hit the lighter stuff.
(Edited 'cause I can't spell 'chioce'.)
Steph L. - May 25, 2004 4:56:32 am PDT #1453 of 3531
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Huh. I remember being distinctly underwhelmed by AYNOHYEB. And I've always been reluctant to mention that fact, since it's so universally loved here.
Fred Pete - May 25, 2004 5:01:07 am PDT #1454 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.
I like AYNOHYEB, but it seems to me there was a fair amount of dissent here when it aired.
I actually looked at the original TT Angel threads not too long ago. There was some dissent, largely over the too (or not enough) anvilicious handling of the '50s setting.