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Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2004 8:54:53 am PDT #1230 of 3531
What is even happening?

Oh. I'm dumb. That makes much sense, then.

Not dumb, just new. You can't be born knowing everything.

I just thought she was divine.

Of course she is.

eta...

duh

Knew=new eye=suck


Lilty Cash - May 21, 2004 8:59:11 am PDT #1231 of 3531
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

You can't be born knowing everything.

But I tried. Oh, how I tried.


Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2004 8:59:55 am PDT #1232 of 3531
What is even happening?

TheirLoveIsSoPure!!!!!!111


Polter-Cow - May 21, 2004 9:05:29 am PDT #1233 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Where're their other hands? I imagine them picking each other's pockets.


Hayden - May 21, 2004 9:06:52 am PDT #1234 of 3531
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I don't really like Joss endlessly bitching about Angel being cut short, either. I mean, they gave him time to wrap things up, and he essentially wasted an episode with the goofy Rome crap.

I did like the end of the show for the themes discussed here: the importance of the fight and the relative morality of noble actions. I especially liked the Wild Bunch heroicism of choosing a losing battle on moral grounds, because the choice to fight for a particular cause and against a particular form of evil should be reason enough to suffer all hell raining down.


Allyson - May 21, 2004 9:11:29 am PDT #1235 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Living in hayden's brain, am i.

Listening to the Firefly extras one night I remember Joss saying that because they were running on fumes and could be struck down at any moment, every second of film was a precious thing, and so every episode had to tell the story from the rawest emotional point.


Gandalfe - May 21, 2004 9:18:09 am PDT #1236 of 3531
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I don't really like Joss endlessly bitching about Angel being cut short, either. I mean, they gave him time to wrap things up, and he essentially wasted an episode with the goofy Rome crap.

Well, this is really two different issues. In the first issue, I don't see endless bitching about it, just endless rehashing here of the same one or two places he bitched.

The second is the Rome issue. I still think that it was a good episode, and if they'd actually been able to get SMG involved, it might have been a good way to say goodbye to her. As it was . . . . Not good for the 3rd to last episode.


Allyson - May 21, 2004 9:27:01 am PDT #1237 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

We said goodbye to her in Chosen. I felt a bit angry at the concept of using her as a bone for the vampires to fight over. She's my girl, yo. Leave her be.

The last smile in Chosen, when she was finally free? I like leaving her there and knowing she's living her life out in the world and I didn't appreciate the idea of the hair double standing in for my hero.

I sound like a heartless asshole, re: cancellation.


DCJensen - May 21, 2004 9:27:50 am PDT #1238 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.

From the responses to author Peter David's Smallville ending blog:

"In an ironic twist, all the actors whose characters' fates are in doubt demand more money and are replaced with members of the former cast of 'Angel.'"

Except Tom Welling, who is replaced by former "Friends" star Matthew Perry ("Could I *be* any more superhuman?"), after Perry learns that he has no future in movies whatsoever.


Pix - May 21, 2004 9:33:23 am PDT #1239 of 3531
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

We said goodbye to her in Chosen. I felt a bit angry at the concept of using her as a bone for the vampires to fight over. She's my girl, yo. Leave her be.

The last smile in Chosen, when she was finally free? I like leaving her there and knowing she's living her life out in the world and I didn't appreciate the idea of the hair double standing in for my hero.

This this this. That is exactly what was bothering me about it, but I was having trouble articulating it. Thank you for explaining it so well, Allyson.