That's my girl... That's my good girl.

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Typo Boy - May 21, 2004 8:01:38 am PDT #1218 of 3531
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think the reason Joss is irritated is that he cut costs, got ratings up, and they still ended the show. He delivered what he thought was the target in terms of ratings and costs, and it still wasn't good enough. IF someone gives me a really tough goal, I meet it, and they tell me I'm losing my job cause that is not good enough - I'm pissed.


Jessica - May 21, 2004 8:02:08 am PDT #1219 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So it irks me greatly that Joss was taken by some huge surprise. Why? They barely squeaked by to get this one.

I agree, but I also can't really imagine Joss NOT being surprised. He just doesn't seem to think that way.


Narrator - May 21, 2004 8:02:48 am PDT #1220 of 3531
The evil is this way?

So it irks me greatly that Joss was taken by some huge surprise. Why? They barely squeaked by to get this one.

Well, without reading his mind, I think the surprise was because the ratings went UP this season. I think it's reasonable to assume that if the ratings go up, the show stays on the air. Of course, there are other factors -- maybe some of the contracts were up for renewal, so the show would be more expensive to bring back, it didn't get a big audience for repeats (non-"Fresh" episodes), etc. that should have dampered any optimism. But I don't think he was wrong to anticipate a renewal.


Wolfram - May 21, 2004 8:03:08 am PDT #1221 of 3531
Visilurking

I'll Nilly it...

Wow, thanks Plei!


Frankenbuddha - May 21, 2004 8:03:56 am PDT #1222 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

That's "Eternity," but yeah.

D'oh!!! smacks forehead

So it irks me greatly that Joss was taken by some huge surprise. Why? They barely squeaked by to get this one.

Their ratings did improve this year, right? That's the only thing I can think of that would make him think he had a better chance of renewal.

He was also probably just talking some residual smack over the whole WB/Buffy kerfuffle, now that he has nothing to lose. Lord knows that "Thank you" note after the episode made ME (as in I, not M.E.) want to slap a few WB executives around.

eta a forgotten "also" and to "hee" at the massive x-post


Allyson - May 21, 2004 8:25:46 am PDT #1223 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think it's reasonable to assume that if the ratings go up, the show stays on the air.

Networks are reasonable?

I'm so cynical that it's difficult for me to not raise an eyebrow. Maybe I'd be more hopeful if it were my baby. I thought it was a crapshoot re: renewal, and although saddened for the crew, not surprised, or even pissed off.


-t - May 21, 2004 8:28:25 am PDT #1224 of 3531
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

And that's why he doesn't stake Harmony - he still has hope for her, despite everything. No time to help her right now, but hope.

Why not for Lindsey, then?

Others have said it, but, hey! I've caught up!

Lindsey had his redemption. Sometime since Dead End , though, he gave it up and went back to the dark side.


Lilty Cash - May 21, 2004 8:45:39 am PDT #1225 of 3531
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Some Friday Afternoon Reading

I think that some of these quotes are from us.


bon bon - May 21, 2004 8:48:19 am PDT #1226 of 3531
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The article is by jengod.


Allyson - May 21, 2004 8:48:20 am PDT #1227 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

That's jengod.