Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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thegrommit - May 13, 2004 10:48:39 am PDT #116 of 3531
Um.

He was beaten and tortured, and had his hair pulled out. That's why he didn't look like Frogyn.

Did the spa treatment include the greying of his hair?

Sounds good. He was in on it with Angel and his answer to "Are you willing to die for this?" was "Yes." That's commitment.

Yes, I do think he's in on it with Angel. His answer about the pleasures of living in a cave seemed to hint that he'd had enough of the immortal life. If his death could atone for his failure to keep Illyria entombed, then so much the better.


Lee - May 13, 2004 10:48:52 am PDT #117 of 3531
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Second, he killed a good guy! A complete innocent! (Okay, possibly not innocent, but not deserving of death at the moment.) Um, repercussions? Or at least recognition? The hell?

Angel killing Drogyn does bother me, and I hope they address it somehow, but are we sure Drogyn is absolutely a good person, a complete innnocent?

In the introduction to the character, he sends guards out to kill Spike and Angel and he threatens to kill Spike for asking him questions. In this ep they established that he knows Hamilton somehow and he admitted to torturing some one for information and made it clear he was good at the torture. (I forget the exact line, but Gunn asked him how he knew the guy was telling the truth, and Drogyn said something about how people he tortured always told the truth)


arby - May 13, 2004 10:54:42 am PDT #118 of 3531
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Actually grommit, your fanwank is totally believable to me.


Connie Neil - May 13, 2004 11:02:14 am PDT #119 of 3531
brillig

Oooh, I like the Drogyn fanwank. He's got his own stuff to atone for, ie, whatever he got up to with Hamilton. Didn't he call Hamilton by another name? Now I'm flashing to "Highlander" and Methos as one of the Four Horsemen, and we don't know how old Drogyn is or Hamilton's background and all.

Stoopid WB people, cutting off a show with so many stories to tell.


Maria - May 13, 2004 11:04:47 am PDT #120 of 3531
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Stoopid WB people, cutting off a show with so many stories to tell.

A pox on all their houses. At least we still have fanfic.


Jessica - May 13, 2004 11:11:12 am PDT #121 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Didn't he call Hamilton by another name?

He calls him by his first name, "Marcus."


Connie Neil - May 13, 2004 11:12:06 am PDT #122 of 3531
brillig

At least we still have fanfic

That stupid plot bunny hutch is going to need expanding.


Connie Neil - May 13, 2004 11:14:13 am PDT #123 of 3531
brillig

He calls him by his first name, "Marcus."

Oh, I didn't remember he had a first name, he's always "very tall evil person" in my head.


billytea - May 13, 2004 11:15:55 am PDT #124 of 3531
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Band leader on Space Ghost Coast to Coast, and "best friend" to Brak on The Brak Show.

Ah, that guy! I've seen a couple of Space Ghosts, including the Shatner ep. Oh! And I saw him once on the Brak Show, when Brak's dad developed superpowers after being bitten by a radioactive camel. And bat, but especially a camel. Lord, that was a funny ep.


Polter-Cow - May 13, 2004 11:48:57 am PDT #125 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I kind of had the (Plei? someone's) reaction of "Oh, so my sense of something being horribly wrong and asspully was SUPPOSED to be like that" and finding it hard to enjoy the last 10 minutes of goodness in light of the prior 30 minutes of irritation.

I believe that was I. Though to be confused with Plei is an honor. At least boardwise. If you confused us in person, I'd have something more to say.

So can someone explain Lindsey's plan? Come on, make it make sense for me. Cause it's been pointed out that using Angel as his sacrifice to get into Black Thorn isn't savvy cause he's always wanted to kill Angel; he's not giving up anything. They're already enemies. Plus, killing Angel would piss off the Senior Partners such that he'd most likely be dead before he made it to Black Thorn.