Yes, there is. There's a hurry, Xander. I'm dying...I may have as few as fifty years left.

Anya ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Lovesick, my Ass!  

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Polter-Cow - Aug 04, 2004 8:46:16 pm PDT #621 of 668
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

And to chime in on some hotly debated topics, I liked "Barrel Bear" quite a bit for its exploration of identity issues (Is your life null if it was a lie? Can you embrace a lie in order to make it true? Actually, that kind of fits in with Eric's and Jaye's dialogue at the end of "Caged Bird," where they realized they had to do the opposite of what they wanted in order to get what they wanted (dialogue that had many of you gagging, but I really liked). It's a topsy-turvy world, the Wonderverse. I wonder if Bryan and Todd and Tim are Gilbert and Sullivan fans. Now I'm imagining the animals singing G & S.) and for being really funny (the aforementioned metaphor line). I can see how it might be out-of-character, but it didn't bother me that much.

"Wound-Up Penguin" is still my least favorite, although it might be better on the rewatch since I love Aaron so much more now. It just didn't do much at all for me.

"Safety Canary" was kind of a mess, because it tried to say things about love that "Lovesick Ass" had just said much better, and the Jaye/Eric schmoopiness was awful and the breakup was pretty random. The animals didn't make her do that, did they? Wasn't that just Jaye being weird?

"Totem Mole" had some funny bits and some interesting notions, but it was mostly kind of eh. And that skull should not have been allowed to speak. I think that violated the laws of the Wonderverse. Unless it was a fake skull. And even then, it only scrapes by.

"Because you listen" gave me chills. And it's that kind of thing that really made me want to see another season. To explore the why of it all.

I'm too tired to talk about why I specifically liked all the other episodes. Maybe later.


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2004 9:12:30 am PDT #622 of 668
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Someone please help. This week's EW talks about the missing Wonderfalls. All is good until they say:

Sharon ends up pregnant, setting up a "miracle birth" in season 2.

WTF????


Allyson - Aug 07, 2004 9:16:04 am PDT #623 of 668
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Who wrote the article, ita?


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2004 9:19:57 am PDT #624 of 668
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mandi Bierly. She's got quotes like "mend what is broken" and "save him from her" -- it's a reasonable summary/teaser of unaired eps. Except for that part.


DCJensen - Aug 07, 2004 9:54:25 am PDT #625 of 668
All is well that ends in pizza.

Sounds more like she got her fanfic license and decided to take it for a spin...


DCJensen - Aug 07, 2004 9:55:28 am PDT #626 of 668
All is well that ends in pizza.

...except that sound like a moving violation. At the very least a fix-it ticket.


tiggy - Aug 07, 2004 10:07:50 am PDT #627 of 668
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

must've been one of those unaired eps that only aired in her head.


sumi - Aug 07, 2004 11:17:57 am PDT #628 of 668
Art Crawl!!!

I have seen only one unaired episode so I haven't read this thread and don't know if this all happens in later unaired episodes, but here are the "What Might have Happeneds" from EW:

1. Jaye & Eric's romance is thwarted when his estranged wife, Heidi, reappears. The muses ask Jaye to "mend what is broken," so she reluctantly stands by as Heidi and Eric renew their vows. Then told to "save him from her," Jaye wrongly believes that Heidi is a killer and stalks the newlyweds.

2. Jaye's lesbian sister, Sharon, has sex with her girlfriend Beth, who has just had sex with her ex-husband (Poor Bitch, er Thomas). Sharon winds up prengant, setting up a "miracle birth" in season 2.


DCJensen - Aug 07, 2004 11:53:36 am PDT #629 of 668
All is well that ends in pizza.

Interesting.

ETA; The scene as written and even more as edited, would seem to imply that the mechanics and set up for this situation were in place.

Although the transmittal of Poor Bitch's semen might seem far fetched, it is within the realm of possibility and it might have been amusing to read fan reactions...

Oh the flame wars....


Cranberry - Aug 07, 2004 1:55:11 pm PDT #630 of 668
I was fine when existence had no meaning. Meaninglessness in a universe that has no meaning -- that I get. But meaninglessness in a universe with meaning? What does that mean?

The "miracle birth" storyline was probably going to happen in season two, so it's a legit spoiler -- although a pregnancy was never mentioned in season one, so it was pointless for the writer to include it.

Bryan shared a few spoilers I like better: he was planning an episode where Jaye has to do jury duty, which would coincide with her putting her relationship with Eric "on trial." Also, the main arc of the season would have Aaron becoming a "first apostle," worshipping Jaye like she's Jesus or something (and freaking her out). Sharon was supposed to get a new love interest after Beth gets back together with Thomas, and Aaron and Mahandra were supposed to stay together, although the relationship would run into problems when he had to hide his "religion" from her.