But how does that change when there's more television discussion in Natter

Two reasons: first, in Natter I didn't have to be worried about being spoiied for other shows since all discussion was whitefonted. That holds true whether or not I see shows when aired or not. Also, this

it's unlikely that something discussed on one day will still be discussed three days hence.

didn't hold true for me. I've been able to post a couple of days after GA aired, for example, and generate discussion. In the TV threads, I didn't feel comfortable coming in two or three days, because there were other shows that had just aired being discussed. (eta: I should say though, that I gave up on the experimental threads after about a week, since it was clear they didn't work for me, so I may not have a good basis for that feeling.) It might not be as in-depth a discussion as what happened when aired, but there was discussion.

In a way-- I almost never watch show when the network airs them, so I can't discuss them when aired.

See, I share SA's confusion, because to me this is a great argument for having a dedicated thread in which to discuss certain shows. If I don't get around to watching show A until three or four days after it airs, it'll be nigh impossible for me to find or drum up discussion of it in Natter. (I should say, this is my recollection of how Natter works, since it's probably been a couple of years at this point since I've been in there.) But with a dedicated (or bucket) thread, I can easily find other people's posts and chime in with my own thoughts.

edit: doh, x-post!

See, I share SA's confusion, because to me this is a great argument for having a dedicated thread in which to discuss certain shows.

But that presupposes that I either don't watch any of the other shows being discussed in the bucket thread or don't care about being spoiled for them. Outside of possibly the reality thread, that simply isn't true.

I'm also not sure it matters. I don't feel that the bucket threads worked for me, which is fine. I don't have to read them.

I also don't like the impact that I felt they had on Natter and the board as a whole. That part for me is not so fine.

eta: edit: doh, x-post! for me too

But that presupposes that I either don't watch any of the other shows being discussed in the bucket thread or don't care about being spoiled for them.

Shouldn't whitefront rules alter the situation, though? Enough that you can keep from being spoiled for whatever show?

I also don't like the impact that I felt they had on Natter and the board as a whole. That part for me is not so fine.

I don't mean to be negative, but it seems like that ship has kind of sailed. Once we made a choice to create some kind of discussion focus, even without the intention of changing the scope of natter, it was changed anyway. People who wanted to discuss television in bucket threads went there for their discussion, and it was lost, apparently, in Natter as a result. I don't really see how that can be reverted. At this point I think we're committed to at least proposing, and quite probably ratifying, some kind of television-thread setup. We can't make television discussion go back in Natter, even if the intention wasn't to remove it from there. I know it wasn't my intention--back when this whole thing started I noted repeatedly that I wasn't concerned about limiting the discussion of television to just one thread venue, I just wanted the opportunity to discuss it in a venue that wasn't Natter. But if there's been a behavior change because of the experimentals, as I think there has been, I don't really see an option to try and put television back in Natter anyway.

Shouldn't whitefront rules alter the situation, though? Enough that you can keep from being spoiled for whatever show?

Not when people are saying they want no whitefont or whitefont for 24 hours only, no.

I think you are right about the ship sailing, but what Kat said

That being said, my objections don't particulalry matter given the juggernaut of support. But I am posting them because inexplicably it seems important to me to note that not everyone thought the experiment went so well.

holds true for me as well. I realize I am in the minority on this but that doesn't mean I'm not going to say anything about it.

I mean, have you met us?

But that presupposes that I either don't watch any of the other shows being discussed in the bucket thread or don't care about being spoiled for them.

and

Not when people are saying they want no whitefont or whitefont for 24 hours only, no.

Are two of the reasons that the new threads, with the exception of the reality thread, didn't work for me.

There is a real assumption that the shows are watched within a day of airing, and that just isn't part of my reality. When it was one show in a thread, like Buffy, then I could wait until I watched the episode and catch up. When there are a bunch of shows in the thread and within 24 hours they each are posted in blackfont, then if I'm even a day behind in the regular television cycle it's pretty much spoiler central.

I'm not sure why people object to whitefont, other than that it takes longer to compose a post.

I hate white font, but I'm an unrepentant spoilerwhore. I just think that it seems that most of the people saying that they would want white font, are giving other reasons for why they wouldn't use or don't like the threads anyway, and probably will not be active in said threads regardless of the spoiler font rules (given that the options seem to be none, 1 day, 1 week.) That might not be true across the board, but it seems true of most of the people being vocal about it So, then we wind up with threads where the spoilerphobic aren't posting because the time's not long enough, and the people that don't want the white font aren't posting because they can't be arsed to post in white font. Nobody wins.

I do not think a white font time period would work at all in a Non-Fiction/Reality thread. That could just be me, though.

For me the reality thread seemed to be the one thread where non-white font didn't bother most people. I know that in my case I don't watch most of the stuff in there so I really didn't care if I read about America's Next Top Undertaker or whatever else those shows were. The stuff in there I was talking about didn't get much traffic, but it was a nice chance to have a little discussion about Mythbusters, Modern Marvels, Dirty Jobs, and Deadliest Catch.

it was a nice chance to have a little discussion about Mythbusters, Modern Marvels, Dirty Jobs, and Deadliest Catch

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