Sir? I'd like you to take the helm, please. I need this man to tear all my clothes off.

Zoe ,'Serenity'


Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Dana - May 28, 2004 6:30:07 am PDT #949 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah, but he used the word "worthwhile". That implies more to me than just "how do we get a new thread created?".


msbelle - May 28, 2004 6:40:28 am PDT #950 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

ok true, but we as a group are never gonna agree on what is worthwhile.


Gris - May 28, 2004 6:43:08 am PDT #951 of 10001
Hey. New board.

That implies more to me than just "how do we get a new thread created?".

Definitely. I don't want to start a new thread if the "community" as a whole will then grumble about it, even if I can get a vote pushed through.

I'm just curious about what the people of the buffista community feel would make a thread that added to the completeness of what we have. Specifically: if you, as a person, aren't interested in a thread, then how many of your fellow buffistas do you think SHOULD be interested in the thread for you to consider it worth it's own separate world, that might become a separate 'sub-community', eventually?

I mean, I, personally, don't watch The O.C. (yet), but I would be perfectly happy for there to be an O.C. thread, as I think at least 15 or 20 regular buffistas would probably post in there, and enjoy the discussion. I don't think a Law and Order thread, however, would make much sense, because I don't think there're that many buffistas that follow new developments (though i may be wrong, and a bureaucracy discussion about such a thread might prove me wrong, I dunno)

Also, how do you as people decide whether a new thread would be a good thing? What do you weigh against the idea of "people would enjoy posting in this thread"? Is it the fear of many new members, the fear of technical problems with the server, the annoyance of more threads on your homepage, or what?

(P.S. Is there somewhere I can donate to the b.org server fund? I'd love to, it seems entirely worth it.)


§ ita § - May 28, 2004 6:48:58 am PDT #952 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

if you, as a person, aren't interested in a thread, then how many of your fellow buffistas do you think SHOULD be interested in the thread for you to consider it worth it's own separate world, that might become a separate 'sub-community', eventually?

I don't have much of an opinion on this specific topic, mostly because I don't need to. If the vote says we're going to have an all Xhosa all the time thread -- then we will. If the noise:signal ratio overwhelms me and saps my enjoyment of the board, then I leave. I can't quantify, beyond quorum or whatever (and even that was pretty arbitrary) how many Buffistas it takes to matter.

how do you as people decide whether a new thread would be a good thing?

A million different ways, I bet.

Is there somewhere I can donate to the b.org server fund?

Paypal donations@buffistas.org.


Jon B. - May 28, 2004 6:56:46 am PDT #953 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Hmmm... I think most of the new threads created since we've been here have fallen into two categories:

1) Obvious fit with our original mission of Jossy goodness. E.g. "Jossverse in other media" (created when Fray was published), or "Minearverse" (Tim being Joss' right hand man on two of his shows).

2) Topics overwhelming other threads. E.g. the pretty elves.

There's also been the movies and music threads, but IIRC those met with a bit more resistance.


Jesse - May 28, 2004 6:59:19 am PDT #954 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I don't want to start a new thread if the "community" as a whole will then grumble about it, even if I can get a vote pushed through.

Ah, but that would become abundantly clear in the discussion process.


DavidS - May 28, 2004 7:14:56 am PDT #955 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't want to start a new thread if the "community" as a whole will then grumble about it, even if I can get a vote pushed through.

Ah, but that would become abundantly clear in the discussion process.

As Jesse notes, it's tough to get a new thread going today. There are a fair number of anti-proliferationistas who would vote against it, so it's unlikely a thread would pass unless there were enough people to support it. People do vote for threads that they don't plan to participate in for a variety of reasons (thread just seems right, or it's a question of fairness). But mostly there has to be strong support and desire for a thread to get one floating nowadays.

Plus also the Chief Engineer is standing over there saying the board canna hold if we push it.


§ ita § - May 28, 2004 7:21:57 am PDT #956 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the Chief Engineer is standing over there saying the board canna hold if we push it.

Hmmph. The board will run. But if you have a large insurance policy and we're a beneficiary, watch your back. Because the board is currently expensive to run. And I can't promise when it'll be cheaper, but I can point out what usage will lock us deeper into the cost.


Topic!Cindy - May 28, 2004 7:24:55 am PDT #957 of 10001
What is even happening?

Hmmph. The board will run. But if you have a large insurance policy and we're a beneficiary, watch your back. Because the board is currently expensive to run. And I can't promise when it'll be cheaper, but I can point out what usage will lock us deeper into the cost.

I'd be tempted to argue that since there are no new BtVS & A:ts episodes, we'd probably break even, but I can not. The BEAST that is the pace of Minearverse probably eclipses our Angel and Buffy threads combined, during sweeps, and back when more of us loved both series and posted about them with abandon.


Gris - May 28, 2004 7:26:28 am PDT #958 of 10001
Hey. New board.

expensive to run.

Umm. I don't claim to know much about hardcore internet service providing, but I gotta wonder... how much, for 30 GB a month? (feel free to email if this is privileged info, or just ignore me - Google can probably tell me, too, approximately.) And how much for 60?

Seeing as this board is easily more entertaining than cable, I'd be glad to pay $20-$30 a month towards it. Especially once I start getting my own paycheck, sometime well after graduation next year. (shrug). The people here make it worth it, even if I never meet them in person.