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Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Topic!Cindy - May 18, 2007 9:35:24 am PDT #9288 of 10001
What is even happening?

It's a question of honoring the original proposal which is what people voted in, and which said we'd discuss all this after the threads closed on June 1. If people thought this was going to happen, some who voted in favor of the experiment might have voted it down, for all I know.

What's the rush, anyhow? The season is over for just about every (regularly scheduled) show. Traffic slows down here over the summer, and during re-run season.


Kevin - May 18, 2007 9:37:58 am PDT #9289 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

OK, I formally propose regular, non-experimental threads, possibly with the same divisions, possibly with changed white font rules, with the possibility of proposing break-out threads for shows that are overwhelming the discussions. Said threads to appear when the experimental threads expire.

I back this up.


§ ita § - May 18, 2007 9:38:44 am PDT #9290 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We voted to discuss it after June 1.


Kevin - May 18, 2007 9:43:07 am PDT #9291 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Ah, hadn't realised that. One thing -- if we go back into discussion, aren't we risking loosing the results of the experiment? Meaning, if we swap everything around and it gets re-proposed, I'm not sure the vote will reflect something that's been trialed. In my mind, it should go straight back to voting June 1st based on people's experiences.


NoiseDesign - May 18, 2007 9:43:27 am PDT #9292 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

The reason that I'd like to see a decision before they close is that a number of new seasons start right as they close. One of those is Ghost Hunters which I would like to discuss.


§ ita § - May 18, 2007 9:54:30 am PDT #9293 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The reason that I'd like to see a decision before they close is that a number of new seasons start right as they close.

I understand that, but it's a shame that it didn't come up (please, this is not a jab) during the discussion of the proposal.

What was voted for was voted for. Hindsight doesn't change that.

I'm not sure the vote will reflect something that's been trialed.

Who said it had to? The experiment was to gather data. Not an explicit prototype.


brenda m - May 18, 2007 9:55:52 am PDT #9294 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Once June 1 hits, I fully expect that keeping the Non-fic thread as is will be up for discussion pretty much immediately. It does seem to be churning along quite well. Given that, if it's re-proposed after June 1, I think we can handle relocating the discussion to Natter for a week.

This is just an opinion, but I would really not like to see a straight up "all four threads as is" proposal. At the very least, I'd like everyone to have the opportunity to chime in on their likes and dislikes about the threads individually. And to see if any new ideas are perculating. With non-fic, it feels like we might have hit the solution. With the others, I'd hate to close things out too early or in a way that leaves people feeling unheard. That's sort of how we got here in the first place.


Fred Pete - May 18, 2007 9:58:56 am PDT #9295 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing results before June 1 with an eye to having a proposal ready to go shortly thereafter. It might be a little early yet because the 1st is 2 weeks away, but we do have a fair amount of data.


§ ita § - May 18, 2007 10:01:57 am PDT #9296 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm being overcome by letter-of-the-lawness, but honestly--if you wanted to discuss earlier, you shouldn't have voted for what you did.


DavidS - May 18, 2007 10:02:36 am PDT #9297 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This is just an opinion, but I would really not like to see a straight up "all four threads as is" proposal. At the very least, I'd like everyone to have the opportunity to chime in on their likes and dislikes about the threads individually. And to see if any new ideas are perculating. With non-fic, it feels like we might have hit the solution. With the others, I'd hate to close things out too early or in a way that leaves people feeling unheard. That's sort of how we got here in the first place.

I concur.