I thought the point of premium was that it was shows on channels you had to pay for. FX, AFAIK, isn't for pay in any market, it's a freebee.
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Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
SailAweigh - Apr 04, 2007 4:50:55 pm PDT #8717 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
sumi - Apr 04, 2007 4:51:19 pm PDT #8718 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
It would fun to be able to discuss Rescue Me or the Riches somewhere (although I'm happy with Natter) but I don't want to be spoiled for premium shows that I would like to watch on dvd in the future, you know?
-t - Apr 04, 2007 5:11:28 pm PDT #8719 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Keep Premium Premium. Rescue Me discussion has done just fine in Natter and it seems like The Riches discussion is thriving in nattery places. I haven't been in Premium in a few days because I haven't had a chance to see the Tudors, so I don't know if something's come up in there that makes it seem especially appropriate.
That said, there's no rule against bringing up FX shows and specifically how they are similar to Premium shows, is there? That would just be topic drift, right?
§ ita § - Apr 04, 2007 5:23:16 pm PDT #8720 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That would just be topic drift, right?
That sort of drift is explicitly dissuaded in Boxed Set.
-t - Apr 04, 2007 6:28:02 pm PDT #8721 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Yes, but does it need to be in Premium?
Maybe it does, I don't know how bright the lines need to be.
Liese S. - Apr 04, 2007 8:03:43 pm PDT #8722 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
I'm in favor of pretty bright lines, myself.
§ ita § - Apr 04, 2007 8:34:21 pm PDT #8723 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I like them bright too. Especially since the slide to de facto general TV thread is an even easier one from Premium.
esse - Apr 05, 2007 12:54:34 am PDT #8724 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
I know that FX is a free cable channel. And I am not asking for premium to turn into a general television thread. What I am saying is that the serial dramas that FX is producing are thematically and stylistically kin to the shows we are currently discussing in Premium, and I think that the overlap of discussion about the shows on that channel and those we talk about in Premium is sufficient that we could consider allowing discussion about them without calling it thread drift. I don't care if you still talk about it in natter, but I am never in Natter, especially not when these shows are actually on. I'd like to have the opportunity to discuss them with other people who also watch them, and those are the same people I talk about Rome, Tudors, Dexter, etc with.
You're gonna get spoiled for twenty different shows walking in to the Boxed Set thread; I really don't think a thread purpose should be based on what someone might watch someday on dvd in the future. I'm talking about what we're watching now, and what we're watching now come out of FX correlates with what we're watching now on HBO and Showtime, enough so that I group it together as a natural discussion base.
And this is not just a mememe thing, the folks who frequent Premium thought it was an appropriate extention of the thread purpose.
§ ita § - Apr 05, 2007 4:57:00 am PDT #8725 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'd like to have the opportunity to discuss them with other people who also watch them, and those are the same people I talk about Rome, Tudors, Dexter, etc with.
While this is perfectly understandable, I think it's a really bad reason to want to extend a thread's umbrella. How do you cap it? Rome and Dexter and Tudors are similar primarily because they're on the same sort of TV station. More and more edgy TV will come out on more and more TV stations. It's the nature of the beast. How do you decide what stays in and what stays out? Will all FX shows also be included in the proposal? "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia," for instance? Only new FX shows, and not "Beverly Hills 90210" or "Married With Children"?
FX barely seems to agree on its own image.
I really don't think a thread purpose should be based on what someone might watch someday on dvd in the future
And I don't think a thread purpose should be based on "Well, these are the same people I discuss some TV with, why not other TV that I think is similar."
You're destroying the possibility of a bright line, and I have to admit it was something I saw come up during the thread creation discussion, and I was hopeful the fact that it didn't make it into the proposal meant that it didn't have attractiveness.
But these are things I can say as well in Lightbulbs as in here, so I'll not bother going on until it gets that far.
Jessica - Apr 05, 2007 5:06:58 am PDT #8726 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I'm not sure thematic linkage of "cussing and fucking" shows is any less bright a line than we currently have in Boxed Set. That said, I can also see the argument for keeping Premium as strictly defined as possible.
Personally, I'd like to discuss The Sheild in Premium for all the reasons that SA brings up, but I don't feel strongly enough about it to open Lightbulbs.