None of it means a damn thing.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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msbelle - May 25, 2004 7:36:17 am PDT #787 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

So are people bringing up discussions and/or topics in threads and not getting conversations to spring up or are people not posting things they want to talk about? Because it has been my experience that if you wnat to talk about something you'll probably find someone around here that will join you, eventually.

I guess I am just not getting the lost feelings people may or may not be having, but that we seem to be discussing.


§ ita § - May 25, 2004 7:40:56 am PDT #788 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm confused about the "who are we?" and the "where will we get new blood?" questions. We have almost 1500 registered users, and 25.3GB of traffic in April.

Whoever we are, and whatever we talk about, there's plenty.

Are folks bored? Lost? Ignored? Short-shrifted?


Jesse - May 25, 2004 7:43:04 am PDT #789 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

When we've had similar who-are-we/who-do-we-want-to-be conversations, the general decision is that we're a pop-culture board with a penchant for ME's work and Tim's work.

See, I think that's what I think, but not necessarily that it's the general consensus, in a world where none of those guys have shows on the air.


Jesse - May 25, 2004 7:44:00 am PDT #790 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Whoever we are, and whatever we talk about, there's plenty.

Which is why I'm kind of disappointed that after months of waiting to have this conversation, I have nothing to say. I don't think we should change anything.

Edit: And I will try to keep from posting much more, since I really don't have anything useful to say. Even though I wish I did.


Lyra Jane - May 25, 2004 8:00:50 am PDT #791 of 10001
Up with the sun

The MEMEMEMEME approach to the question, because of course you're all dying for that:

I'll be disappointed if our bullshit consensus falls on "don't change anything," because it basically means that as of this fall, I'm out of the board except for the fic, music and movie threads (all of which I read more than post about) and whatever random posts there are on Angel and Buffy. I know this job won't give me time to even skim Natter and Bitches, and I'll miss talking to y'all. Show threads tend to be a little easier to keep up with.

But the board is not all about my whims. So.


megan walker - May 25, 2004 8:02:30 am PDT #792 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

it has been my experience that if you want to talk about something you'll probably find someone around here that will join you, eventually.

I agree with this msbelle but I think the call for some sort of TV thread may come from people who can't keep up with natter (and are not obsessive threadsucking completists like myself) and so miss out on much of the show-specific discussion because the thread has already moved on to duct tape or pandas.

Not sure whether I'd support any new thread(s) but I do understand why people would want one. I feel like I can participate in "Movies" but almost always miss TV discussions (today excepted) because my on-line time is so limited.

eta: or what Lyra Jane said


bon bon - May 25, 2004 8:54:19 am PDT #793 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm honestly confused how a TV thread will help people better keep up with discussion of a TV show. Generally we talk about a show the day after it airs-- presumably that wouldn't change (and it's pretty easy to find in natter, too). And the discussion will be overtaken by discussion of more recent television airings-- that won't change, either.

I guess I'm saying, if you can't be in a fast-moving thread the day after it airs, why would the TV thread make it any easier than the discussion that occurs in Natter?

I would think the TV thread would make discussion of any particular show more spread out chronologically than the confined discussion in natter, which makes it even harder to track.


Fred Pete - May 25, 2004 8:55:17 am PDT #794 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Are folks bored? Lost? Ignored? Short-shrifted?

I think it's more a sense of, "What's the mission now?" We started out as a Buffy board. And when that went off the air, we still had Buffyverse with Angel.

Now that Angel has been canceled, our mission seems gone. So what's our new mission?

I think the answer is to be ourselves -- an intelligent, snarky board with an emphasis on pop culture. A mission will come along. Or maybe we're already too unwieldy a board for any single mission.


msbelle - May 25, 2004 9:00:10 am PDT #795 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I guess as a board member who hasn't gone into ME verse show threads actively for a few years this never crossed my mind.

That said, your "be ourselves" idea seems the best approach. People should be able to do that without the confines of ME shows, right?


Kat - May 25, 2004 9:05:05 am PDT #796 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Short-shrifted?

Hey. No poking at shrift please.

In an ideal technical world where we weren't footing the bill, I'd be happy to see a thread for The OC, a thread for Alias, a thread for Tru Calling (which I don't watch), a thread for Everwood, etc.

But we are paying the rent and I'm willing to go without.

I also am good with how we are, even if it isn't perfect.