I think it needs to be clear that saying you're filtering someone counts as "demon-like behavior".
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Jon B. - May 09, 2004 7:01:13 am PDT #566 of 10001
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Astarte - May 09, 2004 7:09:26 am PDT #567 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.
As opposed to how clear the criteria for "demon like" board behavior is now?
I'm in favor of not specifying. If it becomes a large issue, then reconsider.
DavidS - May 09, 2004 7:10:23 am PDT #568 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I'd rather have cultural rather than official enforcement. I think a round of "Dude, that's rude" would be sufficient in most cases. If it's not - then I expect other problems are going on that would bring it up on the stompy radar.
I'm all for the civil discourse, and I would want everybody to treat filtering seriously - much like warnings. We don't joke about warnings here because we've all got the bruises from the disciplinary actions we've taken.
I would think that threats of filtering would be treated the way personal insults or hateful language are treated here: "That's incredibly inappropriate" or "That's rude. Please don't do that." or perhaps with newbies "We don't talk about filtering here and we don't use it as a way of sniping or backbiting. It's a tool, but we expect you to use it with discretion. Announcing who you've filtered is the height of rudeness."
Wouldn't that be sufficient in almost all instances? And when it isn't, again, I'd have to believe other demon like behavior was going on.
Dana - May 09, 2004 7:13:02 am PDT #569 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
I think it needs to be clear that saying you're filtering someone counts as "demon-like behavior".
That's not covered by calling it "extremely rude"?
The other thing I was just thinking about in the shower (shut up) is whether we have to say that the filter is not an excuse for people to behave badly. You can't say to someone "I'm filtering you!" and you can't say "If you don't like what I'm saying, just filter me!"
Consuela - May 09, 2004 7:28:29 am PDT #570 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
You can't say to someone "I'm filtering you!" and you can't say "If you don't like what I'm saying, just filter me!"
Good point, Dana.
Does that sort of thing happen in other forums? I've not seen it, but then I don't hang out at too many other forums where it's an option.
Dana - May 09, 2004 7:30:40 am PDT #571 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
I'm pretty sure it happened at Table Talk.
Lyra Jane - May 09, 2004 7:40:15 am PDT #572 of 10001
Up with the sun
Yeah, it happened endlessly at Table Talk.
§ ita § - May 09, 2004 7:41:29 am PDT #573 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Happens all the time on USENET too.
I'm sure if we wandered afar in PF, it'd be there too.
Allyson - May 09, 2004 8:59:40 am PDT #574 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
You can try to teach people class in the FAQ, sure. But assholes will be assholes.
bon bon - May 09, 2004 9:21:58 am PDT #575 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Expressio unius est exclusio alterius. The expression of one specific thing is the exclusion of others. The more specific our rules, the less leg we have to stand on when we attempt to warn on something not in the rules. Allyson is right that that's just assholishness, and we should follow our regular procedures when it comes up.
If we all agree that this is assholishness, why do we need to give advance notice? It's obvious that telling someone they're blocked or that they will be blocked is intended to be hurtful.