...and a note from your therapist.

Welcome to Brazil!

Do you have to pass the sanity test, or fail it?

I was thinking fail myself.

It should wait until Sean decides if he's going to use his place in queue or not.

I'm going to pass on that one. I couldn't even get four Buffistas to agree to talk about it. How lame is that?

I couldn't even get four Buffistas to agree to talk about it. How lame is that?

In all fairness, you did try while another proposal was on the table.

That never really seemed to stop people before. At least, I (and Wolfram seemed to concur) rememebr a time when we had more than one seconded proposal waiting to get discussed and voted on.

Maybe I'm wrong?

If you want it, propose it when there's no other proposal on the table. That's really all I was saying.

It still might not fly, but why not give it an unencumbered chance if you believe in it?

if you believe in it?

Well, that's the other reason I'm throwing in the towel. I just wasn't that attached to the proposal in the first place, and what little discussion was generated convinced me that I didn't like the idea at all. Not as I could formulate it, anyway.

At least, I (and Wolfram seemed to concur) rememebr a time when we had more than one seconded proposal waiting to get discussed and voted on.

Okay, I'm too lazy right now to threadsuck, but I'm pretty sure my memory is accurate on this issue. Early on, when I first proposed a War/Politics thread and had gotten about two seconds, someone made a second proposal about whether older consensed decisions should be grandfathered in and subject to a moratorium. The second proposal got four seconds before mine did (although subsequently mine got the necessary four.) At the time, my proposal was queued to follow the grandfather proposal. There was a lot of hurt feelings surrounding the War/Politics proposal (and I take most of the blame for that), but I pointed out that should the grandfather proposal win it would moot my proposal. Which it did.

So basically, a second proposal was queued at one time, but it never actually went to discussion due to mootage.

Oh, yeah, it's in Bureau II -- we had quite a bit of yammering over the fact there was a queue, and who should go first, both when talking about War/Politics and later, when dealing with procedural crap. In the War/Politics case, yeah, because we decided to go in order of "who jumped through the procedural hoops first", the queued proposal got mooted anyway, but in the other case, I recall the queue working out just fine.

Although, as with anything in the Buffista blabocracy, somebody had to feel strongly about X Issue, and keep bringing it up at the proper intervals, or else everybody would forget there was a queue at all, and it would all devolve into preferential voting discussions.

We don't exactly have automatic "if this, then that" mechanisms involved; the humans gots to keep pushing at things to make them happen.

Sometimes, I think that middle-stage forgetfulness is an annoying problem, but other times, I think it serves as a good "well, if you forgot it then it can't have been that much of an issue" pressure valve. It's a conundrum.

As for anything resembling a fall TV thread, I'm agin it, due to its nebulousness and short-term value. But now I can't remember whether that is what Sean is proposing.