That wasn't an attack. It was an honest question. The answer might be "Bullshit Consensus" or "Frack it, I'm picking one, because it is urgent."
I think I'm asking what "Bullshit Consensus" means. The notion seems important.
Mal: He calls back, you keep them occupied. Wash: What do I do, shadow puppets?
'The Message'
Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Gus - Apr 27, 2005 9:45:24 am PDT #4567 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Fred Pete - Apr 27, 2005 9:48:46 am PDT #4568 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
Gus, first, apologies for being smart-alecky. No attack presumed.
I think bullshit consensus just kind of spontaneously happens in a "you know it when you see it" kind of way. I'm not sure you can quantify it because, if you have a poll, the consensus is formal and no longer bullshit.
tommyrot - Apr 27, 2005 9:51:23 am PDT #4569 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I'm not sure you can quantify it because, if you have a poll, the consensus is formal and no longer bullshit.
Schrodinger's Bullshit!
Frankenbuddha - Apr 27, 2005 9:53:53 am PDT #4570 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
What Fred said, but in some cases, I'm pretty sure at times the stompies have gone with whatever they interpreted as bullshit consensus, and not necessarily the "true" bullshit consensus.
I think that there was discussion about that at one point, and how if the new name caused an uproar because it wasn't the real choice, it could be changed easily enough.
Frankenbuddha - Apr 27, 2005 9:55:20 am PDT #4571 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Anyway, have at it - to paraphrase Cindy, this bullshit isn't going to consense itself.
Hayden - Apr 27, 2005 9:55:26 am PDT #4572 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I urge Harry G. Frankfurt's excellent (and short) book On Bullshit as essential reading for all of you. In fact, it should be mandatory reading for anyone dealing with decision-making. My blog entry: [link]
tommyrot - Apr 27, 2005 9:55:30 am PDT #4573 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
and not necessarily the "true" bullshit consensus.
Faux bullshit?
Natter 35: Schrodinger's faux-bullshit consensus.
Calli - Apr 27, 2005 9:56:16 am PDT #4574 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
I'm fond of "digress".
Although "Natter 35: Schrodinger's Bullshit!" has a certain appeal, too.
Gus - Apr 27, 2005 9:56:48 am PDT #4575 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Ok, you guys. I'm just lately interested in the processes underlaying "informal group assent". (Fred Pete, no apologies needed!)
I nominate...
Natter 35: Schrodinger's Bullshit!
Frankenbuddha - Apr 27, 2005 9:57:07 am PDT #4576 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Natter 35: Schrodinger's faux-bullshit consensus.
Hee, although better suited for a bureaublahblah thread title.
Although I think "How many bulls does it take to shit a consensus" may be ahead of it in that queue.