I'm having trouble choosing which shows. I mean, I like both Alias AND Jack and Bobby -- but they're on at the same time.

Also -- if we vote for 3 does that mean we can still whitefont the others in Natter?

if we vote for 3 does that mean we can still whitefont the others in Natter?

Judging by past threading, I don't see why not. Hell, there may very well still be whitefont discussion of shows with threads in Natter, unless we explicitly make it not so.

I would love to have a specific mathematical formula in mind for counting ballots that include both "no new threads" and two shows vs. ballots that contain only "no new threads," and votes for "no new threads" vs. votes for each specific thread, but the truth is, my brain isn't that mathy, and I'd rather not make this any more agonizing than it already is.

I know what you mean, but I don't think that is necessary.

Example:

100 people respond to the poll.

75 choose Veronica Mars, 50 choose Lost, and 40 choose Alias (all other shows are chosen less frequently).

If 60 people indicate that they do not want any new threads, it doesn't really matter if all 60 who select "no new threads" are among those 75 who choose Veronica Mars.

We still know that 60 people out of 100 do not want any new threads, at all. Right? In that case, I would think you'd have your answer, and would not propose new threads.

if we vote for 3 does that mean we can still whitefont the others in Natter?

Of course. I'm not at all interested in stopping discussion, here. As ita said, even if we ended up with new threads, Natter would be the same as always.

Right? In that case, I would think you'd have your answer, and would not propose new threads.

 Actually, in that case I would probably propose a Veronica Mars thread, because more people want that than want no new threads at all, and it could still be voted down. But yes, you have the general idea.

Actually, in that case I would probably propose a Veronica Mars thread, because more people want that than want no new threads at all, and it could still be voted down. But yes, you have the general idea.

Actually, actually, in Cindy's example, there were only 100 voters, so some of the VM fans also voted for no new threads. Those people were presumably saying "If we have to have a new thread, I'd like it to be for VM, but I'd rather have no new threads at all."

That's not to say you couldn't still propose a VM thread, but under Cindy's example, if everyone voted as they did in the poll, it would certainly lose.

If 60 people indicate that they do not want any new threads, it doesn't really matter if all 60 who select "no new threads" are among those 75 who choose Veronica Mars.

Lyra Jane, this is the approach I am taking so far. I am keeping track of how many people vote "no new thread", and of those, how many also vote for any show. I am not however tracking it any further than that, so I will not know (for example) how many of the people who voted for Lost did so after they voted for no new threads.

Is that okay?

From the notice in Press, I didn't realize No New Threads was an option for the informal poll, so I hadn't bothered to go and vote (because I didn't want to vote for anything I didn't want). Catching up in this discussion made me realize that it was an option, so I went and clicked and scrolled dooooown, then voted.

I missed the "No new threads" part of the poll, and simply voted for the show(s) I'd be interested in discussing.

I don't feel particularly strongly yea or nay on new threads, I'll bow to the wisdom of the coders and the will of the majority of posters on that.

That's not to say you couldn't still propose a VM thread, but under Cindy's example, if everyone voted as they did in the poll, it would certainly lose.

Not necessarily. You're assuming the overlap was voting to say, "I don't want any new threads, but if we're going to have them, one should be for Veronica Mars", when it's possible some people might have meant "I want a thread for Veronica Mars, but nothing else," or "I don't watch anything but Veronica Mars, so I'll pick none as my other choice." There's no way of knowing which unless we propose and vote on the thread.

Is that okay?

Sounds fine. All I want to see at the end is the totals for each option and a list of the "others." If you want to send me the spreadsheet, I can go from there.

"I want a thread for Veronica Mars, but nothing else," or "I don't watch anything but Veronica Mars, so I'll pick none as my other choice." There's no way of knowing which unless we propose and vote on the thread.

But aren't the people who mean the latter getting over complicated? I mean -- a vote just for Veronica Mars means the same thing...

It's a poll, and non-binding, and judging from comments here not everyone assumed the same thing. But if you're going to parse the results, there needs to be a common ground.