Only if it's puppypile without plot.

PPWP?

Not to be confused with MWPP.

(This is nattering in Bureau, isn't it? Sorry.)

Only amongst the insane. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

Hey! No fair talking about me when all three faces are turned the other way!

Allyson, I am sorry you felt pig piled upon. I didn't see Monday night as a pig pile, because people seemed to be addressing you one at a time, and most times, you responded before the next person posted. Each subsequent person seemed to take into account what you'd said in your responses. Regardless, it's a lousy feeling to experience, and if I'd even suspected it seemed like a pig pile to you, I wouldn't have contributed to it. I am sorry.

I also never meant to put forth that your career comments could be considered on the same level as Sean's outburst. In reviewing my post, I think I could have been more clear about that. I am sorry. I was just struck by the irony of making an inappropriate (to me) comment, while calling someone else out. For me, truly, that first incident was over (that "for me" comes into play next*), and I was addressing the next issue.

* I understand and respect that first incident had not passed for you, just because it had passed for me. I don't hold (what I see as) the typical Buffista philosophy of silence, once an argument is tapering off, as sacrosanct. Witness this post. I don't see one thing wrong with you speaking up after the fact, when you couldn't participate during. Since that incident spoke to you so strongly, I actually believe you were obligated to speak up about it, regardless of what stage the conversation had reached. t /Bronze colored glasses

I don't agree with some of Polgara's conclusions that you've said you share, in fact I find flaw with part of her premise. But I suspect at this point, that's neither here nor there, and people upstream have probably covered it.

I didn't address your comments that troubled me out of some I-think-you-can-take-it, and/or Sean-needs-protecting stance. I addressed the comments that bothered me, because I was convicted that my original silence (at Sean's outburst) was wrong, and I didn't want to make the same mistake again, and so soon after. I suspect some other people who addressed you also felt convicted about their earlier silence, and needed to speak up, for that reason. For me, it really wasn't about personalities, or friendships. Regardless of the fact that I feel closer to Sean than to you or ita, I think you, ita, and Sean all know each other better than I know any of you.

I also was blunt, and am afraid I came across harshly. I was blunt, because you seem (to me) not to have much patience for Buffista lube. Also, there were things I expected you'd understand about my reasoning, going in. That was a ridiculous expectation for me to have. You're not a mind reader.

Where I have caused you offense, I am sorry. I wish I had said instead, "Although I support you sticking up for ita, and agree with much of what you say, I take issue with your bringing your opinion of Sean's career statements into the conversation. It weakens your stance, and is, in my opinion, overly personal." I am sorry I didn't.

Thank you for taking the time to discuss this with so many of us.

...

Sean,

Since I didn't see any of your deleted comments other than what Monique quoted back, I am going to assume the best--assume you deleted them, because you know you need to cool yourself down.

Given the little bits I see quoted back, that's good. In Tuesday's posts, Allyson mostly talked about the community failing to stand up for+ ita, and about her own feelings on what was said to her. I saw no taunting nor goading--of anyone. After you have fully cooled down, please consider taking a few days to think over whether or not you have issues you want to address with ita, Allyson, or anyone else, privately. I hope you're okay. Email is always open.

+ edited way late to change "to" to "for"--because the meaning is completely different. oy.

Question:

Have the UnAm's seen the Angel series finale? Is it okay to mention events in the Buffy thread, now?

Long time now, Cindy.

evil jimi "All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American" Jul 15, 2004 7:11:21 am PDT

Cool, 'cause I didn't want to have to rat you out, ita.

I did my homework.

It's biscuits all around, then!