Nicole - see above. The train is at 4th and King, a block from pacific Bell Park, at 7:07. If we're talking about leaving from my house (recommended, since we're picking up Deena and Laura and bringing them to respective abodes and also back here, if Deena feels likes relaxing on my sofa and both of you getting a ride back to the hotel after we're back), we should plan on grabbing the bus downtown at about 5:40.

Gives us plenty of time to get to the station, even on a Friday rush hour.

Also semi-planned for Friday night, I think, is me having dinner with Sparky and Sean in Oakland, before I head over to SF, either to Deb's or the hotel.

Anyone is of course welcome to join us, or suggest an alternative.

Oh, and I'll need to get Jess directions to the City Friday, so that I can pick her up at BART.

My original list is really choc-heavy.

No complaints here!

we should plan on grabbing the bus downtown at about 5:40.

Thanks, Deb. I'm not sure if Deena is staying at the hotel on Friday or not since so many people are trying to steal her away from me requesting her company. If that's the case and people are still up when we get back, I may just hang out for a bit and then enjoy a nice evening walk to the hotel.

I'm tossing angel hair with grated cheese, toasted pine nuts, olive oil and fresh basil leaves, and maybe a bit of garlic, Thursday night;

Mmmm!!

all are welcome.

This remind anyone else of Poltergiest?

If that's the case and people are still up when we get back, I may just hang out for a bit and then enjoy a nice evening walk to the hotel.

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That's going to be one hell of a walk, love - the Ramada is on, what 9th and Market? Also, be prepared for a few honkin' big hills.

I'm guessing the Nilly and I will leave LA around 10 AM on Thursday and I'm planning to come up the 101 to SF. If memory serves I should be planning on around 8 to 10 hours going that route. I'm also allowing for some stops at nice viewpoints and such. If that is correct then we should be rolling to the Deb's around 8 PM. Does this jive with plans people are making?

Also, Deb, can you give me directions to your place given that I'm coming up the 101?

ND, you bet, but where do you need them from? Hitting the City proper, or what?

Basically I need them from whenever it is that I have to leave the 101 Northbound. SF has the dubious honor of being one of the very few cities in the country where I can get totally turned around direction wise.

OK, then really, your best bet? Is to stay on 101 northbound all the way to, Hillsdale, where you see the Highway 92 sign. Take 92 westbound (NOT EAST!) and take it until you see the freeway onramp marked 280 Northbound.

Take 280 northbound all the way up, staying to the left, and follow the signs for 19th Avenue; that takes you into the City proper, and once you're on 19th? straight shot, stay to the right, come down 19th (the streets are alphabetical in reverse order on the south side of the park, so you'll pass SF State, Stonestown Galleria on the left, and once you cross the big intersection at Sloat? You'll see backwards alphabetical street names as you head north: Yorba, Wawona, Vicente, Ulloa, Taraval, and so on. You'll hit Golden Gate Park; stay right where you are, making sure you're in the right lane. First street out of the park on the north side is Fulton; hang the right, come up to Arguello, hang the left, two blocsk to Golden Gate.

Going back to Friday in SF, what are the people who aren't going south to feed the cats doing? Do we want to try to plan something?