You'd never make it. I'd rip your spine out before you got half a step. Those little legs wouldn't be much good without one of those.

Glory ,'The Killer In Me'


F2F 2: Is there anybody here that hasn't slept together?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: New Orleans! May 20-22, 2005!


juliana - Jun 11, 2004 11:38:07 am PDT #5343 of 9999
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Okay, it feels like people are trying to argue from their gut (in the pro-NOLA contingent, literally). Which is fine and good, and people should be lobbying for their favorite cities, but it seems like emotions are starting to run high, and we haven't even narrowed down the cities yet.

Am I right in that what it will come down to is (in no particular order): affordability, accessibility, and fun? (Note the Oxford comma.) So, if we don't have current medium-hard figures for the affordability, we're just arguing the fun? So maybe the prices shouldn't be a factor right now? Or, if we do want prices to come into the discussion, can we get estimates for each proposed city?

Honestly, I'm not trying to quash discussion, but I don't want us to get this stressed or snappish this early on.


Lee - Jun 11, 2004 11:40:09 am PDT #5344 of 9999
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I feel like you've already decided it's too expensive and in my experience that's just not the case.

Heather, for me, it's not the city per se that is too expensive, it is what I would want to do there that jacks up the price. I would want to go to Commander's palace and eat a good meal upstairs, I would want to go drink Pimms cups, I would want to go listen to jazz, and I would want to buy stuff.

Also, and I realize this may not be as much of a problem for other people, but if I am going to go to New Orleans, I am going to want to spend extra time there, seeing the city, which means at least a few extra days. That is where I run into problems with both the amount of vacation time I have to spend, and the chance that I will be able to actually go without running into work constraints. I don't see that being an issue with most of the other cities mentioned.


Miracleman - Jun 11, 2004 11:41:10 am PDT #5345 of 9999
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

What Lee said.


deborah grabien - Jun 11, 2004 11:41:41 am PDT #5346 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

What juliana said. In a vanilla bean syrup, served with coconut sorbet in half a shell.

edit: in re the prices, isn't most of the hotel pricing we're able to get this far ahead an actual booking usable only for comparison purposes, in any case? After all, there's no way of knowing what the economy will be doing at this time next year; hell, last year at this time, I could afford a F2F without grief, and this year I was totally dependent on the kindness of friends.


Allyson - Jun 11, 2004 11:45:07 am PDT #5347 of 9999
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

¹: Bread pudding, with bourbon sauce, natch

Huh. You should just come to the Bronzers Do NOLA party in May.


Daisy Jane - Jun 11, 2004 11:47:56 am PDT #5348 of 9999
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

We will not get that in New Orleans (or LA, DC or Chicago fwiw). We may get it in Minneapolis or St. Louis or Cleveland or some other smaller cities that a) have some very nice things to do b) will bend over backwards to get our money.

This is what twigged me- that another city would bend over backward and NO wouldn't. I don't know what the city itself would do, but as far as hotels and expenses, it's not as bad as you think.

I haven't been able to attend any because of expenses (which is fine, that's just the way it is), and I find NO very reasonable pricewise in a way that Minneapolis, and St. Louis aren't (I think Cleveland might be a little less expensive for me).

It may be partly a gut response, but there it is.


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2004 11:49:36 am PDT #5349 of 9999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Many tourist places do bend over backwards -- tourists are their lifeblood. NOLA was the cheapest place I ever lived. First choice of cities to be broke in.


Astarte - Jun 11, 2004 11:56:27 am PDT #5350 of 9999
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

What. Ita. Said.


Allyson - Jun 11, 2004 11:58:15 am PDT #5351 of 9999
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Best Western in the French Quarter is $129 per night corporate rate for the weekend of the 21st, May 2005. That's prior to negotiation for a double occupancy.


Allyson - Jun 11, 2004 12:00:25 pm PDT #5352 of 9999
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

ETA, which is cheaper than the rate for the Century Plaza in LA, or the Renaissance in LA. But about 40 more than the Safari, IIRC.