Sometimes when I'm sitting in class... You know, I'm not thinking about class, 'cause that would never happen. I think about kissing you. And it's like everything stops. It's like, it's like freeze frame. Willow kissage.

Oz ,'First Date'


F2F 2: Is there anybody here that hasn't slept together?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: New Orleans! May 20-22, 2005!


juliana - Jun 10, 2004 9:16:45 am PDT #5205 of 9999
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Okay, here goes:

A preliminary proposal for Minneapolis

Local point – I, juliana

Hotels – Millenium Hotel, Holiday Inn Express, Hotel Sofitel, Hilton, Marriott, Best Western

Hotel rates – range from $85 to $119 per night. The four-star hotel I’m working with for the wedding is right downtown, very luxurious, and is willing to work with us – they’ve already offered a price of $99/night (which is better than the wedding party rates, may I say).

Pros –
A lot of theater
More restaurants than you can shake a stick at.
Decent nightlife
The Quest – which used to be Glam Slam, Prince’s club
The short purple one himself, possibly
Goth/punk/queer/BDSM club
Guthrie/Walker/Minneapolis Institute of Arts/The Wiesman
Good public transport system, including a Light Rail system that goes down to Fort Snelling, the Mall of America, and the airport (not done yet, will be done by December 2004)
The skyway system
Weather – average high is 72, average low is 52. Generally mild and sunny.
St. Paul has some amazing architecture from the WPA period and earlier, as well as caves and gangster tours.
Hub city, so prices flying in tend to be decent.
Mall Of America and other shopping extravaganzas.
Amusement park in the MoA and also Valleyfair! not too far away.

Cons –
Weather – can be stormy and generally April-like in May
Allergies – one of the worst states for hay fever and plant-allergic people.
Again, hub city, so Northwest will occasionally screw people over.
Confusing highway system.
7.25% sales tax in downtown. 13% for hotels.

I can’t think of another pros or cons. Anyone else want to chime in?

I'll get into specific cool clubs/restaurants/whathaveyou later....


deborah grabien - Jun 10, 2004 9:33:01 am PDT #5206 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

juliana, add what is, I think, the only branch of Last Call - Neiman Marcus' outlet store, where you can everything from Badgeley Mischka evening gowns to 18th century pottery from China at prices reminiscent of Target - in that entire time zone.


Lee - Jun 10, 2004 9:35:40 am PDT #5207 of 9999
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Shopping in general is another plus for Minneapolis, especially with Juliana to show you around to the good places.

Not that I spent a boatload of money there or anything.


Dana - Jun 10, 2004 9:37:47 am PDT #5208 of 9999
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

That bookstore that Neil Gaiman deals with. DreamHaven?


billytea - Jun 10, 2004 9:44:54 am PDT #5209 of 9999
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And I haven't been to Minnesota. I'm on the Minneapolis train! Woot!

...And your zoo has a spotted skunk! And a siberian tiger and a takin and a musk ox and a moose and pronghorn and Przewalski's horse and Rothschild's mynah! Oh, Lordy, and a clouded leopard.

I'm sold.


Dana - Jun 10, 2004 9:45:48 am PDT #5210 of 9999
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

billytea, are you into fish too? Amphibians? Albino alligators?


deborah grabien - Jun 10, 2004 9:51:29 am PDT #5211 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

And more shopping, of the kind one appreciates after getting completely into the "oh my dear whatever on a pogo stick, please be kidding me" headspace:

The Mall of America.


billytea - Jun 10, 2004 9:52:10 am PDT #5212 of 9999
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

billytea, are you into fish too? Amphibians? Albino alligators?

I've checked through the Louisiana zoo and aquarium websites already. The white alligators (IIRC, it's not an albino, it's leucistic - blue eyes instead of pink - and once appeared on the Jeff Corwin Experience) is a drawcard. But I think I'm going to plump for Minneapolis. To me, the selection is more exotic.


Daisy Jane - Jun 10, 2004 9:53:05 am PDT #5213 of 9999
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Dana, do you want me to do NO, or you?


Dana - Jun 10, 2004 9:54:47 am PDT #5214 of 9999
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

You've been working on it, haven't you? I'm happy to toss in more pros and cons, but organization is not my strong suit at the moment.

Personally, I don't understand why "But it's NEW ORLEANS" isn't convincing people. Hmph.

(That's a joke. Please don't defend your city preference to me.)