Inara: Mal, this isn't the ancient sea. You don't have to go down with your ship. Mal: She ain't going down. She ain't going anywhere.

'Out Of Gas'


F2F 2: Is there anybody here that hasn't slept together?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: New Orleans! May 20-22, 2005!


Java cat - Mar 31, 2004 5:39:14 pm PST #19 of 9999
Not javachik

ALL ABOUT AIRPORTS NEAR THE F2F:

First, the hotel is a block away from Union Station, which has Amtrak, regional trains, and Metro, the DC subway.

Second, there are 3 airports that serve the metropolitan DC area: National, Dulles, and BWI in Baltimore.


NATIONAL, officially the “Reagan National Airport,” is the closest in to DC. Planes fly over Potomac River take off and land and banks steeply to avoid flying over White House airspace. But if you get a window seat on the correct side of the plane, and the right landing approach, you get the BEST view of the city coming in. Post-9/11 security procedures forbid passengers leaving their seats within 30 minutes of the airport. So arrivals can't get up 30 minutes before landing, and departures have to stay seated until 30 minutes after takeoff. Holli lives nearby and has offered to help with pick-up/drop-off and resources.

There is a Metro stop at the airport. You can take the Metro to Union Station ($1.20, I believe--www.wmata.com), or a cab shouldn't be more than $10. [link] The blue and yellow lines run from National to DC. The blue line goes to Union Station. You can transfer from the yellow to blue line or orange line. [link]

DULLES AIRPORT runs the Washington Flyer shuttle into DC. [link] For $8, it runs you non-stop to the West Falls Church Metro station, where you can connect to the DC Metro system, on the orange line, which goes straight to Union Station. [link]
Fred Pete lives nearby and has offered to help with pick-up/drop-off and resources. Raquel lives near the Vienna Metro stop, and has offered to help with pick-up/drop-off and resources from there.

BWI AIRPORT runs a shuttle to a nearby train station, where you can get a train to Union Station in weekdays. There’s also a city bus from BWI to a Metro station. Anne W. lives nearby and has offered to help with pick-up/drop-off and resources. Meara vouches that the train from BWI is easy.

For BWI, there are two options (other than hoping Anne will pick you up). Check out [link] (from “BWI” to “WAS” on main page) or [link] BWI Rail Station Daily 5:30am-9:30pm MD Rt. 170 and Amtrak Way You have to take a shuttle bus to the rail station. Please check the train schedules, if you are coming in very late, it may not be convenient to take the train. Plus, if you take the MARC (commuter) train, it is something like $5, whereas the Amtrak (which runs on the same line) is more like $14. Either of these will take you directly to Union Station.

Another option out of BWI is the Metrobus. [link] for times--I believe it runs later than the Amtrak. There is a bus from the airport to the Greenbelt metro station. [link] This is the last station on the green line, and you can then get on the metro and take it to Union Station. This will be $1.20 for the bus (20 minutes or so), and $2.20 during off-peak hours for the metro (25 minutes, one change of trains) or $2.65 during rush hour.


deborah grabien - Mar 31, 2004 6:06:00 pm PST #20 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Define "sleep with".


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2004 6:25:46 pm PST #21 of 9999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Those were the days, weren't they, Shawn?

Why did they ever have to ... oh. I remember now.

::sniff::


Maria - Mar 31, 2004 6:34:30 pm PST #22 of 9999
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

NATIONAL--There is a Metro stop at the airport. You can take the Metro to Union Station ($1.20, I believe--www.wmata.com), or a cab shouldn't be more than $10. [link] The blue and yellow lines run from National to DC. The blue line goes to Union Station. You can transfer from the yellow to blue line or orange line. [link]

Small correction--the Blue Line does not go to Union Station. For those who are taking the Metro, the best bet is to take the Blue Line from National to Metro Center, where you will transfer to the Red Line which will take you to Union Station. Don't be afraid to ask for help if you're confused. People do understand.

DULLES AIRPORT runs the Washington Flyer shuttle into DC. [link] For $8, it runs you non-stop to the West Falls Church Metro station, where you can connect to the DC Metro system, on the orange line, which goes straight to Union Station. [link]

Another correction--The Orange Line does not go to Union Station either. If you want to go the Washington Flyer route, take the Orange Line to Metro Center and transfer to the Red Line which will take you to Union Station.

BWI AIRPORT runs a shuttle to a nearby train station, where you can get a train to Union Station in weekdays. There’s also a city bus from BWI to a Metro station. Anne W. lives nearby and has offered to help with pick-up/drop-off and resources. Meara vouches that the train from BWI is easy.

For BWI, there are two options (other than hoping Anne will pick you up). Check out [link] (from “BWI” to “WAS” on main page) or [link] BWI Rail Station Daily 5:30am-9:30pm MD Rt. 170 and Amtrak Way You have to take a shuttle bus to the rail station. Please check the train schedules, if you are coming in very late, it may not be convenient to take the train. Plus, if you take the MARC (commuter) train, it is something like $5, whereas the Amtrak (which runs on the same line) is more like $14. Either of these will take you directly to Union Station.

Another option out of BWI is the Metrobus. [link] for times--I believe it runs later than the Amtrak. There is a bus from the airport to the Greenbelt metro station. [link] This is the last station on the green line, and you can then get on the metro and take it to Union Station. This will be $1.20 for the bus (20 minutes or so), and $2.20 during off-peak hours for the metro (25 minutes, one change of trains) or $2.65 during rush hour.

Be aware that BWI is undergoing renovation which can cause major delays during prime times on the roadways surrounding the airport. Normally it should take 20 minutes to get from the terminal to the Amtrak station, but during peak hours I would allow at least 40-45.

For those departing from BWI, you should also know that the security lines can be horrendous, especially during peak hours. Wait times of 2 hours are not unheard of. I've done it and it sucks. Those leaving from National, you've got it made. I've never waited longer than 10 minutes to get through security. Dulles falls somewhere between the two. The biggest problem for those departing from there will be traffic if you're leaving the city near rush hour.

I hope I haven't stepped on anyone's toes...

-Maria


Holli - Mar 31, 2004 6:50:18 pm PST #23 of 9999
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

I can verify the short waits at National. Though the last time we flew out of there, we got in line immediately ahead of about 80 members of the Russian Ballet. So that's a possible danger.


Lee - Mar 31, 2004 6:52:19 pm PST #24 of 9999
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Should someone put an announcement in Press about having a hotel?


Java cat - Mar 31, 2004 7:15:31 pm PST #25 of 9999
Not javachik

Oh I just got all ants in my pants about putting something in here early in the new thread. The hotel won't give me the magic password until I sign the contract tomorrow that says if people don't actually make room reservations, I have to sell my house and move into a cardboard box to pay them for all the rooms. I thought I'd wait for the magic password and then post in press. Dumb ants in the pants. But, then, I can correct all the stuff about the airport in the Press post tomorrow.

I'm reading B'cy. I really should go home and watch The OC.


billytea - Mar 31, 2004 7:19:47 pm PST #26 of 9999
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Wow. I'm so tickled at the thread name. I figured it'd have to get shot down.


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 31, 2004 7:21:36 pm PST #27 of 9999
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Oh my god, Hec and JZ are coming! That's so fucking exciting!

And woo, thread name!

I am all exclamation marks. Except, apparently, here.


NoiseDesign - Mar 31, 2004 7:23:36 pm PST #28 of 9999
"You'd think a house full of crazy people would be fun. It's actually really depressing." --Bart Simpson

I'm all bouncy! I get to meet buffistas I've not met before!