Kaylee: H-how did you... g-get on...? Early: Strains the mind a bit, don't it? You think you're all alone. Maybe I come down the chimney, Kaylee. Bring presents to the good girls and boys.

'Objects In Space'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Nutty - Dec 29, 2003 5:21:35 am PST #925 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I didn't know that Narsil was FIVE FEET LONG! Dude.

Okay,wait, I know we had this discussion before, but... how do you draw a sword that is belted at your waist, if the sword is five feet long? I mean, it has to clear its sheath, so the hilt of the sword has to be five feet above your waist, right? And you hold the sword by the hilt, because (a) cut off fingers and (b) it looks really silly drawing a sword hand-over-hand down the blade.

So to draw a 5-foot sword from a sheath -- okay, take me. I'm 5'6", but 36" at the hip. So I've only got 30" of body above the waist, and of that probably 20" is hip-to-shoulder. How long is an arm? Say, another 30"? I don't think I could physically draw that sword unless it were belted around my knees. (I mean, yeah, luckily Viggo is taller than I am, but not that much taller.)

Is Narsil/Anduril just unsheathed the whole time we see it? I mean, it's in Strider's (or Elendil's, or Isildur's) hands a lot, but do we see it drawn, ever?


Theodosia - Dec 29, 2003 5:26:04 am PST #926 of 3902
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Also, if you see Gods & Monsters where McKellen macks on Brendan Fraser, you'll have a little bit of Gandalf-identity-crisis....


Theodosia - Dec 29, 2003 5:27:24 am PST #927 of 3902
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

The five-foot length could include a foot of hilt, easily. It's also not unusual for long swords to be sheathed over the back....


tina f. - Dec 29, 2003 5:28:19 am PST #928 of 3902

The book says that Elendil was called Elendil the Tall and stood over seven feet. Narsil was made especially for him. It was strapped to the ankle, in addition to the hip, to avoid it hitting the ground.

Aragorn draws it in front of Elrond, but not from his side. Just from the sheath, which he is holding.

The funniest thing is that it was made by a Dwarf - so it was way taller than its actual maker.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 29, 2003 7:58:15 am PST #929 of 3902
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Is Narsil/Anduril just unsheathed the whole time we see it? I mean, it's in Strider's (or Elendil's, or Isildur's) hands a lot, but do we see it drawn, ever?

Following on from Sean's comment about the Paths of the Dead and asking roleplayers what was on their horses and what they were carrying, I noticed on my third rewatch that the sheath for Anduril was on Brego at that point-- Aragorn was carrying Andruil, and there was definately a sheath that long on his horse as it left.

So he carried it unsheathed, and would have drawn it from the sheath attatched to Brego the second time he did so-- the first time in front of Elrond, using the length of both arms.


Betsy HP - Dec 29, 2003 8:10:07 am PST #930 of 3902
If I only had a brain...

I've decided that I want Ian McKellan to do a movie with Victor Garber and Hugo Weaving.

Throw in Harvey Keitel? Please?


Anne W. - Dec 29, 2003 8:33:10 am PST #931 of 3902
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Speaking of McKellan's Richard III, did anyone else flash back to the ending of that when Gollum was gleefully falling into the fires of Mt. Doom?

I keep wondering whether or not that was a sly little shout-out.


Sean K - Dec 29, 2003 8:52:20 am PST #932 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Is Narsil/Anduril just unsheathed the whole time we see it? I mean, it's in Strider's (or Elendil's, or Isildur's) hands a lot, but do we see it drawn, ever?

The five-foot length could include a foot of hilt, easily. It's also not unusual for long swords to be sheathed over the back....

Yes, five foot swords (for people who are not as tal as Elendil) are typically slung over the back, or on the side of your horse.


Jessica - Dec 29, 2003 9:07:30 am PST #933 of 3902
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Throw in Harvey Keitel? Please?

Oh my yes.

Perhaps Narsil was 5 feet long, but Anduril lost a bit of height in the reforging? I can't remember ever seeing Aragorn unsheath it now.

Must rewatch.


Nutty - Dec 29, 2003 9:39:56 am PST #934 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

So the sheath is on the horse, not the person. I can live with that. I'm thinking, though, that a 4-foot blade (assuming a foot of hilts) is still -- awfully long and unwieldy for someone on land, and not long enough to act like a jousting stick (what are those called?) or a polearm on a horse. So, one hopes, a sword more memorial than for getting dirty with.

(Still, it does make me laugh to think of a sword that all told come up to my chin. If you hung that sword on Strider's back, he'd be kicking it with every stride. Even Shaqille O'Neal Elendil would look kind of silly swinging around a sword the size of a full-grown woman.)