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'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'

LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

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Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.

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§ ita § - Dec 23, 2003 9:01:14 am PST #751 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

One of my biggest worries about TT was that they wouldn't manage the thin line between Badass!Gimli and ComicRelief!Gimli, and I was glad when they did such a good job of it. Here, NSM.

Really? I liked him a lot better in this one. The short jokes at Helm's Deep bothered me way more than anything in RotK. In RotK, I felt I was to be laughing at his jokes, not at him.

Miracleman - Dec 23, 2003 9:03:17 am PST #752 of 3902
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Okay, and I know that I'm gonna be in a minority here, but...

BadMofo!Legolas v. the Oliphaunt? Took me right out of the movie. I was "Oh, here's another CGI stunt for the damnable elf. yay."

The rest of it rocked.

Aims - Dec 23, 2003 9:04:34 am PST #753 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t stern look at MM

Miracleman - Dec 23, 2003 9:05:53 am PST #754 of 3902
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

stern look at MM

What? It did!

MechaKrelboyne - Dec 23, 2003 9:09:19 am PST #755 of 3902
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious

Really? I liked him a lot better in this one. The short jokes at Helm's Deep bothered me way more than anything in RotK. In RotK, I felt I was to be laughing at his jokes, not at him.

True enough, and believe me, I was no fan of 'Or shall I get you a box?' and the like, but at least it was balanced by the ungodly number of necks hewed, the Flying Gimli attack, the Flying Gimli attack redux, saving Aragorn's life when the wall blew up and such. It seemed like more of a balanced fellowship. In RoTK, the humour (though I agree that it was better humour) was pretty much all there was for him. I wouldn't quibble, but if they have time for five more minutes of Pretty Boy and The Beast , they could've at least given gimli one cool fight sequence.

ETA t Amends sign to read 'And folks who didn't like Legolas v. Oliphaunt'

DavidS - Dec 23, 2003 9:14:37 am PST #756 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Concur with Mecha on the generallismo. I kept thinking, "I don't think those Oliphaunts can turn as quickly as the horses. Maybe coming in from the flanks and behind would be better, eh?"

Concur with MM on the Oliphaunt slaying. As I noted upthread, Legolas/Orly was much cooler with actual human-sized moves in FoTR when he was poking Orcs in the face with arrows and his whirling slashing attack in Moria.

Steph L. - Dec 23, 2003 9:15:42 am PST #757 of 3902
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Legolas and the Oliphaunt took me right out of the scene, too.

But so did every time someone said "Retreat!" because all I could think was "Run away! Run away!" and then I'd start giggling.

Miracleman - Dec 23, 2003 9:16:02 am PST #758 of 3902
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Steph: BWAH!!

Steph L. - Dec 23, 2003 9:16:28 am PST #759 of 3902
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

See???

§ ita § - Dec 23, 2003 9:17:24 am PST #760 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I agree about the fighting evenness, Mecha. But I'd rather not laugh at him than cheer with him, if the negatives are correctly placed.

Next step is to have him kill more.

In both my viewings, Legolas slewing the Oliphaunt got the biggest cheer and Gimli "That only counts as one!" got the biggest laugh. Given my predelictions, I can deal with that division of labour.

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