River: I know you have questions. Mal: That would be why I just asked them.

'Objects In Space'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Aims - Dec 21, 2003 7:50:08 pm PST #590 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Denethor's a right fuck, ain't he?


§ ita § - Dec 21, 2003 7:51:23 pm PST #591 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He's not as much of a fuck (and there's backstory) as Legolas is pretty, though.


Aims - Dec 21, 2003 7:52:58 pm PST #592 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And that shot you were speaking of? Is it when he walks into Frodo's bedroom in Gondor ??

Cause. Yeah. Heheheheheh.


Sean K - Dec 21, 2003 7:55:45 pm PST #593 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Hey Aims!!!!

What did you think? And what did you think of what Eowyn did? That's why she became such a big character for me.


§ ita § - Dec 21, 2003 7:55:56 pm PST #594 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Completely that shot. In fact, I thought I'd imagined it, until I saw it the second time, and then I realised I hadn't even remembered its full glory.

Where are the screencaps, dammit?


Aims - Dec 21, 2003 7:58:14 pm PST #595 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And what did you think of what Eowyn did?

t flicks hand

Eh. *g* I liked it. A very much whole lot.

Where are the screencaps, dammit?

Screw a screencap - where's the lifesize cardboard cut out?

HEY! DX!! Since you already make action figures, can you make ita and I a set of paper dolls of Legolas with all of his outfits and stuff?? Ta ever so.


Sean K - Dec 21, 2003 8:06:19 pm PST #596 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Eh.

Aimee so funny...

*smooch*


Connie Neil - Dec 21, 2003 8:07:08 pm PST #597 of 3902
brillig

Want an Action Eowyn, as described in the Farewell 2003 thread. Want. Want want want. Mattel should be bringing out the Eowyn!Barbie fairly soon, though I imagine that'll make me want to throw things--preferably Barbie.


Kathy A - Dec 21, 2003 9:16:35 pm PST #598 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Well, I think I'm RotK'd out--I just got back from my third viewing. A few questions:

  • What idiot brings both a toddler and a preschooler to a 8:35 pm Sunday night screening of a PG-13, 3 hour and 20 minutes long film??

  • Why could the three teens behind me Not.Shut.Up?! They were just far enough over that I couldn't do anything more than give them very severe glares, which had no effect whatsoever. For the first three hours, it was one constant gabfest, and then they said, "Well, it's over" when
Minas Tirith faded into the map, and finally left, otherwise I was going to walk up to them after "The End" and demand my $6.50 back.


Katie M - Dec 21, 2003 9:33:37 pm PST #599 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Dear Peter Jackson: In future films, you will be allotted one (1) fade-to-a-primary-color, as you clearly cannot be trusted to use them appropriately.

Which is not to say I didn't like it, because I did. Despite the disappointments, and of course there were some, there had to be, I am so very glad that these movies were made, and made by people who loved them.

1) Okay, dude, that is so not the stone of Erech. Not even close.

2) Denethor... oh, Denethor. Yeah, it's been said. What I realized, though, was that how Denethor was written is part and parcel of something that's been happening all along, and that's the increasing agency of members of the Fellowship as opposed to other folks. It happened to the Ents, when Merry and Pippin inspired the attack on Isengard. It happened to Denethor, when Gandalf rode in and took over the city. It happened in that scene - was it here I saw that conversation? - when the Fellowship and Eomer, sans any actual Gondorians, decide to attack Mordor.

3) I teared up three times. Once when Theoden told Eowyn that he would not be ashamed to greet his fathers; once at the Cracks of Doom, starting when Gollum and Sam tumble down the hill; and once at the Havens. The second one was one of the moments that gave me that "oh, yes, that's right, that's exactly how it went" feeling - that was what teared me up, more than the moment itself.

4) Signs you're too familiar with Tolkien: Your response to the scene where Gandalf tells Pippin about death is "hey! Gandalf doesn't know that! The Doom of Men is a mystery to the Maiar!"

5) Shadowfax showing Pippin the meaning of haste! I've always been fond of that line with Ioreth, and I'm glad it got worked back in.

6) I completely understand why Beregond and Bergil couldn't be there, but I missed them all the same. (And made repeated confused noises several times when Gandalf and assorted other folks rode into battle with hobbits in front of them. What *possible* reason would Gandalf have for taking Pippin with him onto the Pelennor?)

7) Eowyn. I hate to say it - I'm sure this will be my Unpopular Opinion - but Eowyn is all wrong. A legitimate choice for characterization, and Miranda Otto played her well, but oh, Eowyn's not supposed to be girlish and earthy and frightened. Eowyn is brittle and deadly, with a needy core underneath, and Eowyn would have been the first to cry "Death!" I miss my Eowyn, and won't see Miranda Otto when I read the books. Actually, it's funny; every now and then I would get a little pang of grief when I knew for sure something wasn't going to be there that I wanted to be there. (Eowyn's full speech - "you stand between me and my lord and kin, and living or dark undead, I will smite you if you touch him!" Frodo at the Cracks of Doom, saying that he does not choose to do what he came to do.) On the flip side, though, I got a little thrill every time a piece of Tolkien's language made it into the movie.

I may possibly be too familiar with these books.

8) Shelob is the best spider ever.

9) Ohmygod, Billy Boyd's Pippin. That is all.