Buffy: A Guide, but no water or food. So it leads me to the sacred place and then a week later it leads you to my bleached bones? Giles: Buffy, really. It takes more than a week to bleach bones.

'Dirty Girls'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Atropa - Dec 21, 2003 10:50:37 am PST #567 of 3902
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I cried more at Lilo and Stitch, but I certainly had to wipe away tears at several points.

That was my experience, too. Lilo and Stitch hit a lot of my "Cry now!" buttons, but RotK just made me a little sniffly.


Volans - Dec 21, 2003 10:53:45 am PST #568 of 3902
move out and draw fire

And serially, that bit you identified as asspully was even MORE asspully in the book. PJ improved it a bit, actually. In fact, in the parody "Bored of the Rings," the eagle leader says, "Welcome aboard Deus Ex Machina Airlines!"


Betsy HP - Dec 21, 2003 10:53:54 am PST #569 of 3902
If I only had a brain...

I am righteously pissed at the treatment of Denethor.

Denethor is noble in his madness; he treats Mippen with extraordinary kindness and respect. He's a great king who, tragically, is convinced that their cause is hopeless.

He is not a tomato-dribbling maniac.

Also, he lies back down on the pyre with the Palantir in his hands. He does not run screaming down the hall like a special effect in a cheap music video.


Consuela - Dec 21, 2003 11:04:46 am PST #570 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Word, Betsy. That was my biggest complaint. And it can't be fixed in the EE, although I guess they could at least indicate that he's been driven mad by his use of the palantir.

Denethor son of Ecthelion deserved better.


Volans - Dec 21, 2003 11:14:05 am PST #571 of 3902
move out and draw fire

After the hosing of Aragorn and Faramir, I barely even noticed the hosing of Denethor.


Theodosia - Dec 21, 2003 11:50:25 am PST #572 of 3902
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

What Betsy Said about Denethor. Also what Consuela said about it not being entirely repairable.

If he had to go rushing out of the tomb, he should have staggered and collapsed against the dead tree, setting it on fire, and then we could have got a long shot of the landing pad with the tree ablaze on it, the smoke going up....


Jessica - Dec 21, 2003 12:17:16 pm PST #573 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

It's not really that asspully in the books because it's established as early as The Hobbit that Gandalf is on good enough terms with Gwahir to call in favors every now and then. Given how much of that sort of thing was fixed from the theatrical to the EE TTT, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the RotK EE has a line or two about the eagles in on of the earlier battle-planning scenes. (Help help, I'm becoming an Extended Edition apologist! I must go see it again, to refresh my irritation!)

"The Eagles! The Eagles are coming!" is one of my favorite lines from the book. I don't know why, I just love it to pieces.


Katie M - Dec 21, 2003 12:49:33 pm PST #574 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Ooh, Theodosia. Setting the old tree on fire! That would've been a cool nod for the book-familiar.

Though now that I think about it, the tree was actually put in Rath Dinen in the books, wasn't it? Still, the pyre would've worked for me.


Elena - Dec 21, 2003 1:19:55 pm PST #575 of 3902
Thanks for all the fish.

Yes. Denethor was not handled the way he should have been, in my opinon. He deserved the book version. And it really can't be fixed in the EE.


Volans - Dec 21, 2003 2:03:09 pm PST #576 of 3902
move out and draw fire

Maybe it can be fixed in the EE, because Pippin sees the white tree burning in the palantir. And according to the spoilers for the EE, Gandalf's staff is broken before they go into the crypt, so Gandalf couldn't very well whack Denethor with it. So maybe there's a whole other scene.

And how much do I hate the whacking? "Yeah, but I've got this l33t +4 staff!"

Not saying it WILL be fixed, just that maybe it could be fixed. Just that tho...the tomatoes are here to stay.