Mal: How come you didn't turn on me, Jayne? Jayne: Money wasn't good enough. Mal: What happens when it is? Jayne: Well... that'll be an interesting day.

'Serenity'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Elena - Dec 20, 2003 8:20:27 pm PST #529 of 3902
Thanks for all the fish.

Well, sure, ita. But you'd have to know the critic to take their opinon, wouldn't you? On food, film, fun.


ted r - Dec 20, 2003 8:21:28 pm PST #530 of 3902
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

I wasn't looking for apologies, from you or Sean. I was merely expressing my general disdain for professional film critics. I suspect that is a minority view around here-though apparently not entirely a solitary one.


Susan W. - Dec 20, 2003 8:25:04 pm PST #531 of 3902
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

But you'd have to know the critic to take their opinon, wouldn't you?

IME you can tell a lot by reading between the lines--also, a good reviewer will tell you things like how authentic a restaurant is to an ethnic cuisine or how seriously a historical romance takes the history side of the equation. With movies, if there's any doubt over whether or not I want to see it, I read a selection of reviews--I figure 10 minutes getting a feel for critical consensus is worth it if it saves me wasting money or time on a crap movie, or gets me to try something good where the premise and previews alone wouldn't have hooked me.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2003 8:26:31 pm PST #532 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But you'd have to know the critic to take their opinon, wouldn't you? On food, film, fun.

Absolutely. Just like I need to know your taste history before I can know how relevant your opinions are to my potential future enjoyment.

If I'm going to make a decision on what to partake of, and what not ... I have to take someone's word for quality. Evaluate the critics, to help me ration what I sample.


P.M. Marc - Dec 20, 2003 8:30:12 pm PST #533 of 3902
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Hmm.

You know, we do *have* people who do reviews as more than just a hobby on the board. Just a thought.

Well, sure, ita. But you'd have to know the critic to take their opinon, wouldn't you? On food, film, fun.

I'd just have to have some knowledge of the critic. I wouldn't take Joe Critic's word for something unless I'd previously read Joe Critic's work, found that Joe Critic and I agreed on things X, Y, but not Z, and then made my will I or won't I based on a combination of what Joe Critic had said before and my own pre-existing opinions about the subject or food type.


Sean K - Dec 20, 2003 8:32:01 pm PST #534 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I'm not asking for an apology, ted, I just don't understand why film critics are any more or less worthy of contempt (again, your word) than you, or me, or anybody else who reviews a film.

Is it because they have an opinion, or because some of them get paid to give it?


Elena - Dec 20, 2003 8:32:39 pm PST #535 of 3902
Thanks for all the fish.

I'd just have to have some knowledge of the critic.

That's what I meant by 'know the critic'.


Atropa - Dec 20, 2003 9:01:18 pm PST #536 of 3902
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Powers of ultimate evil are supposed to be tall, I think it's in the rules. How else can one loom effectively?

I'm going to tell Clovis you said that ...


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2003 9:28:34 pm PST #537 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The tall conflicts with the sneaking, though. Also, it's a bit of a tell.


Sean K - Dec 20, 2003 9:38:11 pm PST #538 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Powers of ultimate evil are supposed to be tall, I think it's in the rules. How else can one loom effectively?

I'm going to tell Clovis you said that ...

I suppose you can also loom if your owner holds you up really high...