Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Mar 29, 2005 8:46:59 am PST #3796 of 3902
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Gimli!

And Elrond.

ETA: this was exactly my first reaction to the Greek sculptures I have to study.


Fay - Mar 29, 2005 1:37:25 pm PST #3797 of 3902
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Lord of the Peeps ACTION FIGURES.

Check out Frodo's 'Staring Action'


brenda m - Mar 29, 2005 3:24:57 pm PST #3798 of 3902
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Good lord, even that site has to weigh in on Terri Schiavo? I don't know how much more I can take.


DXMachina - Mar 29, 2005 3:27:38 pm PST #3799 of 3902
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Good lord, even that site has to weigh in on Terri Schiavo? I don't know how much more I can take.

Yeah, I saw that and clicked right back out.


sumi - Mar 29, 2005 3:37:04 pm PST #3800 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

Hmm, somehow I missed the Schiavo nonsense.

Sorry everyone.


DXMachina - Mar 29, 2005 3:42:08 pm PST #3801 of 3902
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Nothing to apologize for, Sumi. Different people will have different reactions.

Now if it had been spoilers...


StuntHusband - Mar 31, 2005 2:08:28 pm PST #3802 of 3902
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

Back here, pestering, having re-read a lot of the thread.

Yep - lots of the complaints about the choice of what to keep, what to cut, and how to alter it for screen mirrors what I've been saying all along. Not 100% satisfying, and RotK was the least-satisfactory of the 3 - but that's like a 7 on a 10-scale, where TTT was a 9 and FotR waffles between 8 and 10. (Depending on which version you watch, and how much sleep I've had.)

shrug

I could get into endless debates with all the well-educated, well-informed Tolkien fans and movie enthusiasts here about the strengths and weaknesses of these versions, but I don't want to fight with anyone. :) I tend to get REALLY uptight about this stuff, unreasonably so, and I recognize it, and simply avoid making enemies out of friends because I cannot be reasonable.

I do not kid when I say Lord of the Rings has religious meaning to me. I can joke about it, mock bits and pieces, laugh at the foibles of the Professor endlessly...and raise a toast on his birthday and death-day, celebrate the New Year appropriately, and get misty-eyed when I think about his tombstone inscription.

Parts of the films are absolutely what lives in my heart. The rest I can write off to the realities of making a movie in this world - it just doesn't have to be good, it has to be profitable, or it'll never see the light of day (or be nothing more than mental masturbation by the auteur crafting it - a work for his sake and no-one else's).

I've already rambled more than I wanted - once I start, I only stop when I lose my voice.


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 2:11:52 pm PST #3803 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"She was (and knew she was) my Luthien. I will say no more now. But I should like ere long to have a long talk with you. For if as seems probable I shall never write any ordered biography--it is against my nature, which expresses itself about things deepest felt in the tales and myths--someone close in heart to me should know something about things that records do not record: the dreadful sufferings of our childhoods, from which we rescued one another, but could not wholly heal wounds that later often proved disabling; the sufferings that we endured after our love began--all of which (over and above personal weaknesses) might help to make pardonable, or understandable, the lapses and darknesses which at times marred our lives--and to explain how these never touched our depths nor dimmed the memories of our youthful love. For ever (especially when alone) we still met in the woodland glade and went hand in hand many times to escape the shadow of imminent death before out last parting." ~On why we wishes to include the name "Luthien" on Edith's tombstone (written to Christopher Tolkien)


StuntHusband - Mar 31, 2005 2:22:55 pm PST #3804 of 3902
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

...and his tombstone says "Beren".


DavidS - Mar 31, 2005 2:25:12 pm PST #3805 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I do not kid when I say Lord of the Rings has religious meaning to me.

Well you're not alone in that reverence in this thread. Not me (though I enjoy it all), but several Buffistas have made similar comments, and have as deep a grounding in the lore.