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'Conversations with Dead People'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2004 8:23:33 am PST #3458 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I always figured that b) Shelob stung lower than the vest and I know that c) he doesn't have all his fingers -- look again -- only three reach the top of the book. The index finger falls short.

Nutty, why is Aragorn lying in that speech? I'd thought it apparent that Sauron didn't have the ring, because then his army wouldn't actually be massing to fight. It wouldn't have to. So things weren't over.


DavidS - Dec 20, 2004 8:24:15 am PST #3459 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Jars, I'm pretty sure 2) has an explanation, but 3) is a continuity error.

eta: apparently not a continuity error.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2004 8:34:39 am PST #3460 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Finger missing. Haven't found one of the shot over his shoulder.


Beverly - Dec 20, 2004 8:34:45 am PST #3461 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

How come Frodo has a full set of fingers as he's writing his book in the Shire?

He doesn't, actually. I noticed particularly that his index finger was shorter than the rest.


beathen - Dec 20, 2004 8:37:37 am PST #3462 of 3902
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

Jars, for 2) How did Shelob sting Frodo if he was wearing his mithril vest? I believe the vest was v-shaped and Shelob stung him where the metal did not cover his chest.

Also, once Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas get to Pellenor, did you notice the shot of Legolas shooting arrows -- but where they forgot to cgi the arrows in ?

I actually looked frame-by-frame at this, and I thought that they did CGI the arrows in, but since Legolas was shooting them so fast it's hard to tell that they're actually there.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2004 8:39:54 am PST #3463 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Shelob stung him where the metal did not cover his chest.

No, otherwise we'd see them when Frodo's shirtless in the orc's tower. But we see no fresh wounds then, so it must have been below the belt, where the vest wasn't covering.


sumi - Dec 20, 2004 8:44:12 am PST #3464 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

Okay, beathen -- I shall try that.

I think that we had a discussion about the Black Gates and the plain in front of them and the mountains to the side of them.

Frodo and Sam came through the Dead Marshes -- but if you look at the map you can see that there is a plain directly in front of the gates -- and that there are in fact, mountains if you cut straight from Emyn Muil to the Gates.

(BTW, in TTT, if Legolas had said that the orcs were turning Northeasterly insted of saying Northeast -- would he have been less wrong?)


DXMachina - Dec 20, 2004 8:47:30 am PST #3465 of 3902
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

BTW, in TTT, if Legolas had said that the orcs were turning Northeasterly insted of saying Northeast -- would he have been less wrong?

No, because they still would've been heading the wrong way.


sumi - Dec 20, 2004 8:56:49 am PST #3466 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

Oh well. No way to go around it Peter, Fran and Phillippa made a big error and never caught it.


Jars - Dec 20, 2004 9:03:38 am PST #3467 of 3902

Maybe my friend meant he had all his fingers at the Gray Havens and she got confused?

I haven't had a chance to look at the movie since she mentioned it to me earlier today.

Quite glad the mystery of the Moving Mountain has been solved though. That would really have annoyed my brain every time I watched it.