Gunn: Well, how horrible is this thing? Lorne: I haven't read the Book of Revelations lately, but if I was searching for adjectives, I'd probably start there.

'Hell Bound'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Connie Neil - Jul 12, 2004 4:29:56 am PDT #2799 of 3902
brillig

YOu're right, ita, Frodo organizes a move to the eastern part of the Shire as part of a plan to quietly get the ring out of the Shire. He even sells Bag End to the Sackville-Bagginses. Merry and Pippin figure something is up when Frodo decides to sell out, but Sam, their primary spy, clams up when Gandalf catches him.

Time frame--a couple/few months between discovery of the ring to removal from Hobbiton. Maybe a bit longer.


Connie Neil - Jul 12, 2004 4:31:12 am PDT #2800 of 3902
brillig

Yes, several years between Bilbo leaving and Frodo finding out what the ring is.


dcp - Jul 12, 2004 4:37:18 am PDT #2801 of 3902
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

how long is it between when Frodo gets the ring, and he leaves the shire?

In the books, it is 17 years from when Frodo receives the ring until the "trial by fire" that reveals it to be the One Ring, then another six months before Frodo leaves the Shire.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2004 4:56:06 am PDT #2802 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wish I could remember what my primary angle had been in the bet at work. I think I had more time between the Trial and the departure, but months will do. And selling Bag End was definitely not something my co-worker was believing in.

Thanks!


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2004 7:23:37 am PDT #2803 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does Frodo ever use an assumed name?


Katie M - Jul 12, 2004 7:25:59 am PDT #2804 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yes. Mr. Underhill.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2004 7:26:55 am PDT #2805 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ta. I was right on that, at least.


Hil R. - Jul 12, 2004 7:28:00 am PDT #2806 of 3902
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah, Underwood or Underhill or something like that, I think. From when they leave the Shire until around when they meet Strider.

t x-post, of course


sumi - Jul 12, 2004 7:38:45 am PDT #2807 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

Underhill -- in Bree.


Kathy A - Jul 12, 2004 10:51:24 am PDT #2808 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

In Bree, Frodo is questioned as to his connections to some Bree hobbits also named Underhill, and Butterber (the innkeeper) continues to call him "Mr. Underhill" when they return after the quest is over, even though he knows that it's a false name.

One thing I sort of miss in the film was more of a feeling that Bree was a border town between the Shire and the "Big People"--there are no other hobbits either imbibing at the Prancing Pony, or employed there, as there are in the books, even though there are accommodations for hobbits.